I like this article: http://www.overclockers.com/tips01210/ for more reasons than I can probably say. Just warning you: I have phoned AMD and we are trying to get a Phenom but were told to email them with details of HOW we are testing (and why would they want to know that then?) among other things. I haven't had a reply and the launch is next week Since it seems I've annoyed someone, somewhere at AMD for something I wrote recently and we wouldn't pull it from site because we're not under NDA for it, I'm preparing for the worst (as in, ask someone in Taiwan for one XD) So, short story is that it might not be on site straight away. I'm going to phone the PR lass every day this week to nag, so we'll see what happens. I'd just like to echo the sentiment of the column at overclockers though - read reviews with a critical eye OT: How long has overclockers had that site? 10 years? :| EDIT: Not annoyed anyone anymore, tis all hugs and kisses.