right i have now given up any hopes of having a breakout box soundcard as i cant afford, in afct i cant afford a lot but i want a better sound car than the one i have (soundblaster 16) which of these will give me a better sound a soundblaster 64 or a Gamesurrond MUSE XL oh will i be missing anything if i get the OEM version of the soundblaster or is it jsut all those bundles applications that take up space that no one really uses can you reccomend any other soundcards that will sound better than my SB16 for roughly (preferably [as in for the love of god less than] £20 as my sound card money has had to go on a new laptop hard disk) or would it be better if i saved for longer & bought a Hercules Fortissimo II?