For graphics, I prefer Vanguard and Age of Conan to Oblivion, but really there's not much in it. I would never argue that Oblivion didn't do an amazing job with graphics, my gripe with the Elder Scrolls games are that the gameplay is ****. I'm not sure what you mean by player perspective, but combat is something I could defend forever. It's pretty much the biggest thing in my gaming life. I live for RPG combat, and I know it inside out. To me, Oblivion is some of the worst combat I've ever seen. I like that it's fluid and plays like an FPS which is quite good (although I'd rather just play a real FPS if I want that kind of thing). What I hate is that it's so shallow. As a melee or hybrid character there is little more to it than left click to swing your weapon, and right click to block, with a few spells to help you out. As a spellcaster, you spend most of the game running around, spamming your crappy generic firebolt spell like the most tedious FPS ever made. Later on when you can make spells, you can make a spell that kills 99% of enemies with one shot. It's got to be the worst I've ever seen, by quite a big margin. I wasn't all that impressed by Dragon Age, but to think that each character in that game is comparable to Oblivion and yet you have a whole party of them, just shows how far behind Oblivion is. As for MMORPG's, I don't know what MMORPG's you've played but most of the ones I've played have first person views, and most of them are leaps and bounds ahead of Oblivion. I could explain it but there's too much in those games to even explain, but even in the likes of WoW, the combat is far more advanced, and most MMORPG fans consider WoW to be a kid friendly simple game. Something like Vanguard absolutely craps all over Oblivion in every respect. The only comparable thing would be the graphics (and even that I would give to Vanguard), but everything else, is miles better than Oblivion. The world is probably multiple times bigger, it has dozens more varieties of locations, it has an amazing crafting and harvesting system, it has flying mounts, player owned ships that they can sail, it has better music (and far more of it), better UI, infinitely more spells and combat abilities, better everything basically, and it has some of the best combat you can find outside of specialist titles like Magic The Gathering. As for cost, that's a different discussion. We're talking about gameplay, not which game is the best value for money. Although even with that, there are some free games that I would much rather plan than Oblivion anyway. Most of what I play is single player. I prefer a story driven game too, but to me, gameplay is the most important thing. If all I want is a good story, then there are far better ways to get that, like reading a book. When I'm looking for good gameplay, I will play anything, any genre, online or offline. I think Eve and Guild Wars (which isn't even an MMO) gave you a bad impression. The whole point of MMO's are that they are massive. They are filled with real people in the same way that real life is filled with real people. If someone annoys you, move on and play with other people. That's what it's all about, and eventually you make friends and join guilds and that way you get to just spend all your time surrounded by people you like. No I didn't say that. I said that there ARE games that do as much in one, and some that do it better than Oblivion. Like I said, most MMORPG's do everything Oblivion does, but far better. But there are single player games that do that too. In fact there were single player RPG's like Betrayal At Krondor doing as much as Oblivion, about 20 years ago. That's just your opinion. Mine is different. I think it does almost everything badly. I like it's graphics, but I can't think of ONE other redeeming feature. It has a very bland world with hardly any variety at all, it has cut and paste dungeons that are all the same, and all too small, it has about 4 different types of enemy in the entire game, (and the same with voices), it has a main quest that I could complete in about one afternoon, it's filled with the most generic of side quests, it has no real tradeskills, and it has some of the worst combat I've ever seen. Exactly. It's all flashyness and no substance. Besides graphics, it's a step backwards from even Morrowind, and even Morrowind wouldn't make my top 10 RPG's.