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Motors The Official bit-tech F1 2012 Thread - Post season

Discussion in 'General' started by alastor, 7 Dec 2011.

  1. alastor

    alastor Well-Known Member

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    The Standings:
    Code:
    [b]Pos	Driver		Pts[/b]
    C	Vettel		281
    02	Alonso		278
    03	Räikkönen	207
    04	Hamilton	190
    05	Button		188
    06	Webber		179
    07	Massa		122
    08	Grosjean	96
    09	Rosberg		93
    10	Pérez		66
    Code:
    [b]Pos	Constructor	Pts[/b]
    C	Red Bull	460
    02	Ferrari		400
    03	McLaren		378
    04	Lotus		303
    05	Mercedes	142
    06	Sauber		126
    07	Force India	109
    08	Williams	76	
    09	Toro Rosso	26
    10	Caterham	0
    The Races:

    18 Mar - Qantas Australian Grand Prix - Albert Park Grand Prix Circuit, Melbourne, Victoria - Sky
    25 Mar - Petronas Malaysian Grand Prix - Sepang International Circuit, Kuala Lumpur - Sky
    15 Apr - UBS Chinese Grand Prix - Shanghai International Circuit, Shanghai - BBC & Sky
    22 Apr - Gulf Air Bahrain Grand Prix - Bahrain International Circuit, Sakhir - Sky
    13 May - Gran Premio de España Santander - Circuit de Catalunya, Barcelona - BBC & Sky
    27 May - Grand Prix de Monaco - Circuit de Monaco, Monte Carlo - BBC & Sky
    10 Jun - Grand Prix du Canada - Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, Montreal - Sky
    24 Jun - Grand Prix of Europe - Valencia Street Circuit, Valencia - BBC & Sky
    08 Jul - Santander British Grand Prix - Silverstone Circuit, Silverstone - BBC & Sky
    22 Jul - Großer Preis Santander von Deutschland - Hockenheimring, Hockenheim - Sky
    29 Jul - Eni Magyar Nagydíj - Hungaroring, Budapest - Sky
    02 Sep - Shell Belgian Grand Prix - Circuit de Spa-Francorchamps, Spa - BBC & Sky
    09 Sep - Gran Premio Santander d'Italia - Autodromo Nazionale Monza, Monza - Sky
    23 Sep - SingTel Singapore Grand Prix - Marina Bay Street Circuit, Marina Bay - BBC & Sky
    07 Oct - Japanese Grand Prix - Suzuka Circuit, Suzuka - Sky
    14 Oct - Korean Grand Prix - Korean International Circuit, Yeongam - BBC & Sky
    28 Oct - Airtel Grand Prix of India - Buddh International Circuit, Greater Noida - Sky
    04 Nov - Etihad Airways Abu Dhabi Grand Prix - Yas Marina Circuit, Abu Dhabi - BBC & Sky
    18 Nov - United States Grand Prix - Circuit of the Americas, Austin TX (subject to track completion and inspection) - Sky
    25 Nov - Grande Prêmio do Brasil - Autódromo José Carlos Pace, São Paulo - BBC & Sky


    The Teams:

    Red Bull Racing
    Engine: Renault/Infiniti
    Country: Austria
    Drivers: Sebastian Vettel (Germany), Mark Webber (Australia)

    Vodafone McLaren Mercedes
    Engine: Mercedes
    Country: UK
    Drivers: Jenson Button (Britain), Lewis Hamilton (Britain)

    Scuderia Ferrari
    Engine: Ferrari
    Country: Italy
    Drivers: Fernando Alonso (Spain), Felipe Massa (Brazil)

    Mercedes AMG Petronas F1 Team
    Engine: Mercedes
    Country: Germany
    Drivers: Nico Rosberg (Germany), Michael Schumacher (Germany)

    Lotus F1 Team
    Engine: Renault
    Country: UK
    Drivers: Kimi Räikkönen (Finland), Romain Grosjean (France)

    Sahara Force India F1 Team
    Engine: Mercedes
    Country: India
    Drivers: Paul di Resta (Britain), Nico Hülkenberg (Germany)

    Sauber F1 Team
    Engine: Ferrari
    Country: Switzerland
    Drivers: Kamui Kobayashi (Japan), Sergio Pérez (Mexico)

    Scuderia Toro Rosso
    Engine: Ferrari
    Country: Italy
    Drivers: Daniel Ricciardo (Australia), Jean-Eric Vergne (France)

    Williams F1
    Engine: Renault
    Country: UK
    Drivers: Pastor Maldonado (Venezuela), Bruno Senna (Brazil)

    Caterham F1 Team
    Engine: Renault
    Country: Malaysia
    Drivers: Heikki Kovalainen (Finland), Vitaly Petrov (Russia)

    HRT F1 Team
    Engine: Cosworth
    Country: Spain
    Drivers: Pedro de la Rosa (Spain), Narain Karthikeyan (India)

    Marussia F1 Team
    Engine: Cosworth
    Country: Russia
    Drivers: Timo Glock (Germany), Charles Pic (France)


    The Regulations:

    http://fia.com/en-GB/sport/regulations/Pages/FIAFormulaOneWorldChampionship.aspx

    Summary:
    • Strictly controlled areas in which the exhausts must be placed; much higher in the bodywork
    • "Exotic" engine maps banned to prevent off throttle exhaust blowing
    • In season testing returns, presently planned for three days at Mugello starting 1st May
    • Maximum nose height reduced from 62.5cm to 55cm from the ground (will take some getting used to)
    • Lapped drivers will be allowed to unlap themselves under safety car conditions
    • If in defending his position a driver leaves the racing line, he will not be allowed to retake it (could be a big change)
    • Drivers will not be able to leave the track without good reason (e.g. cutting chicanes during in-laps to save time/fuel)
    • Use of helium in tyre air guns banned :lol:
     
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  2. alastor

    alastor Well-Known Member

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    The US and Bahrain GPs are both included in the current calendar after the FIA WMSC meeting this morning.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/formula_one/16067944.stm

     
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  3. Pieface

    Pieface Well-Known Member

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    Sky Sports F1 have announced there line up, and to be honest I'm mostly impressed with the crew they got.

    http://www1.skysports.com/formula-1/news/12433/7356971/Sky-reveal-2012-F1-team

    Martin Brundle and David Croft commentators
    Ant Davidson as Practise commentator
    Ted Kravitz (Which is the one I'm happy about most probably) with Natalie Pinkham as pit reporters
    And then the bad selection Georgie Thompson.

    Seriously, Georgie Thompson? Oh the irony, Sky F1 has a convicted drunk driver on their team.


    Problem with the line up, the best thing about BBC's coverage, Jake, Eddie and David isn't there.
     
  4. Throbbi

    Throbbi New Member

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    Let's hope Pirelli change things a little for next season. 2011 started with Pirelli really making things interesting with dramatic differences in the grip and degradation levels of the different compounds but towards the latter half of the season things slowly became a Bridgestone affair again with tyres lasting silly amounts of time and removing the tactical elements seen at the start.

    I've got no idea what difference the helium would make in the wheel guns.
    In season testing will make some interesting changes. ~The last couple of years have seen some teams being very competitive early on only to drop off significantly as the season progresses (Renault being a prime example last year). A lot of this, I think, is down to some teams being unable to maximise the results gained from wind tunnel testing, hopefully in season testing will help to even things out.

    The banning of exotic engine maps and strict control of exhaust placements will show us who were really making the most out of blown systems.

    EDIT: Crofty in the commentary box with Brundle?! Epic Win!
    Can't wait to see who fills the last seats but it's good to see old Pedro back again, always liked that guy :)
     
  5. alastor

    alastor Well-Known Member

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    Disappointed that BBC didn't manage to hang on to at least some of the commentators, makes me worried for who they will actually have (if Leggard is back I might just buy Sky).

    Updated OP with Sky/BBC live broadcasts.

    Apparently it allows ~30% faster rotation of the gun, but the FIA has decided the cost wasn't worth the benefit :lol:
     
  6. TheKrumpet

    TheKrumpet Once more, into the breach!

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    Won't be watching this, certainly can't afford sky as a student. A shame, 2011 was really good year for F1, viewer figures were up, and then it gets licensed to Sky and quite a few people can't watch as a result. :(.
     
  7. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Against my better judgement i am tempted to get a sky sub... but if i do it means 'they' win...
     
  8. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    Thanks for starting the thread Alastor, good postage. :)

    2012 technical changes are shaping up to be quite decent, I'm looking forward to it. The change in nose height coming over the next few seasons is going to be a big aero challenge, even though no-one's really touched on it yet.

    Sounds like a good team to me - whichever broadcaster has Ted, Crofty and Ant is my winner really, as they're the heart and soul of the team from my perspective (I don't really enjoy the Eddie/Jake/DC banter that much, I'll watch some of it, but not 8h/weekend). Now if only they could find some way to get ScarbsF1 into the program... That'd be a real winner!

    Never even heard of him!

    As for Sky vs BBC I'd rather have it on the Beeb, but since our household already has a Sky subscription the stats won't change because of me (if we didn't have it already I wouldn't get one, I hasten to add).
     
  9. Throbbi

    Throbbi New Member

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    The only reason i have Sky is that it's the only luxury we can afford really and it's kind of unfair that I have internet use and the wife just has the TV, when it's without Sky but through a Sky box that's very few channels(you can't even get Dave for example). Basically just with HD is £10.25 a month and that would include the F1 channel when it launches. It only gets really expensive when you start adding movies, sports or multi-room really.
     
  10. Da_Rude_Baboon

    Da_Rude_Baboon What the?

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    alastor Well-Known Member

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    :thumb:
    Not a bad looking fella to be fair, think I'd rather look at her than Jake/DC/EJ :lol:

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Showerhead

    Showerhead New Member

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    If in defending his position a driver leaves the racing line, he will not be allowed to retake it (could be a big change)

    Won't this destroy most of the battles for position we see though i.e taking a slower line into one corner in order to get an advantage at the next one.
     
  13. Canon

    Canon Reformed

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    Räikkönen is a fatboy now
     
  14. Throbbi

    Throbbi New Member

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    So what they're basically saying is 'once you have left a turn/corner/bend you may only move the steering wheel once before turning into the next turn/corner/bend.'

    Way to go with making an enforced procession FIA.
     
  15. Guest-23315

    Guest-23315 Guest

    I have literally lost all interest in F1 seeing as I cant, for the first time in my life, watch all the GP's.

    I actually feel betrayed.
     
  16. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    :lol: Serves me right for skim-reading it as George. Not my cup of tea, but a bit of sideboob never does any harm. ;)
     
  17. yodasarmpit

    yodasarmpit No longer the other Brett.

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    Come on, Get Sky, you know you want to :p
     
  18. sparkyboy22

    sparkyboy22 Web Tinkerer

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    I'll get in early!

    Dont forget before the start of the season to sign up at http://www.fantasyf1league.com

    Dont do it yet as i'm redesigning at the mo.
     
  19. Canon

    Canon Reformed

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    Is that anybodies cup of tea? She looks like a mouldy old iced gem...

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Jester_612

    Jester_612 "Jammy..."

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    You can't be that much of a motorsport nut then. It wasn't that long ago (actually before I was born) that only the broadcasts were highlights.

    I like that lesbian look!

    New sporting regs: http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/12/12876.html

    Is anyone thinking of going to Milton Keynes on Saturday?

    For me it depends on how much stress I feel like having on the morning.
     
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