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Windows The Windows 10 Thread

Discussion in 'Software' started by impar, 30 Sep 2014.

  1. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    In a pre-release telemetry like that is pretty much a given...

    They'll want to see heatmaps of who's clicking/tapping where and how often, which can [does] affect menu/ui layouts amongst other things.

    funnily enough telemetry like this is how/why the start menu was dropped in the first place
     
  2. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Bit-Tech Cat. New Improved Version.

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    Very sensible, I run it inside VMware Player.
     
  3. theshadow2001

    theshadow2001 [DELETE] means [DELETE]

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    I suppose that while people weren't using it much because of desktop shortcuts or the taskbar or whatever; it is still a useful construct for when you do need to find something thats not pinned to the shortcut or a shortcut on their desktop. But of course telemetry won't tell you that.
     
  4. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    If few people are clicking the general area of the start button or pressing the Win key they can probably say with some certainty the start menu isn't getting much use... If people are relying on pinned taskbar items or desktop shortcuts, they'd see lots of clicks on other bits of the taskbar and/or lots of use of the Win+D shortcut or the 'show desktop' button/trigger area.
     
  5. theshadow2001

    theshadow2001 [DELETE] means [DELETE]

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    Yes I know. But people will still need to use some kind of menu system at one stage or another. Telemetry won't give you feedback on how useful that system is when people do need to use that menu system.

    So if its being used rarely it doesn't necessarily mean you should get rid of it. Because when it is actually used it still quite useful. Sort of like that weird tool you have in the toolbox that rarely gets used. But when you need it you're glad you have it.
     
  6. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    I may not use the fog lights on my car from one year to the next, does that mean they aren't needed. :) Somethings may not get much use but they are still important.

    EDIT: Came across this on gHacks.
    Add Preview Build settings to Windows 10
    http://www.ghacks.net/2014/10/04/add-preview-build-settings-to-windows-10/
     
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  7. theshadow2001

    theshadow2001 [DELETE] means [DELETE]

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    Exactly
     
  8. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    True, but neither should you be too surprised when the put the switch for them somewhere out of the way...
     
  9. theshadow2001

    theshadow2001 [DELETE] means [DELETE]

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    I'm not going to engage further in metaphors. It soon becomes a game of poking holes in the metaphor rather than the actual subject.
     
  10. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    I know what you mean, anyway i'm not saying either way whether it was a good decision to ditch the start menu as it was, but it was based on the data/feedback they had at the time.
     
  11. impar

    impar Minimodder

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    Greetings!

     
  12. theshadow2001

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    In my mind it sounds very much like the vista to 7 transition. 7 probably could have come as a vista update.
     
  13. DragunovHUN

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    Apparently the Previous Versions tab has been spotted in the file properties window. Is there any confirmation that Shadow Copies are back, or has the tab just been left on by accident without the actual functionality behind it?
     
  14. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    The 'Previous Versions' Tab is indeed there but the description is 'Previous Versions come from File History or Restore Points' so I'd guess it relies on File History rather than VSS like in 7...
     
  15. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Finally managed to get to work, needed to download the Driver *CD* from here then point device manager at it...

    Neither the installer from intel's site [nor the installer on the CD] will install... just says it can't find an intel adaptor...

    You don't get any of the management gubbinz doing it that way, but you do get working ethernet...
     
  16. impar

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    Greetings!

     
  17. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Well first major problem has reared itself in the form of Windows Update and/or the App store deciding it's going to eat itself...

    EDIT: nvm, appear to be a problem at MS' end...
     
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  18. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Not that most people need the following pointed out to them (it's probably just me overreacting)

    How to Send Feedback to Microsoft in the Windows 10 Technical Preview
    http://www.howtogeek.com/197604/how-to-send-feedback-to-microsoft-in-the-windows-10-technical-preview/
     
  19. impar

    impar Minimodder

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    Greetings!

     
  20. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Here are the Top User Requests for Windows 10
    http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/here-are-top-user-requests-windows-10
    Are they all sensible requests ?
    Personally I'm looking forward to something like this, seeing what people suggest and vote up.
     

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