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trying to make a server

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Pre_Tender, 14 Dec 2006.

  1. Pre_Tender

    Pre_Tender New Member

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    i'm trying to make a server, out of some REAL old comp. (p 3)

    but i'm a noob on server systems, i know for so far that it doesn't have to be a high-end quick system, only have some storage (like 200 to 500 gig)
    no flashy stuff for this one

    Have:
    * mobo
    * cpu
    * psu
    * vga
    * ram
    * (crappy) hdd
    * case
    * fans and stuff
    * network card
    * dvd-drive
    * floppy drive

    so...anyone got some ideas for me how to pull this of right?
    and if i need anything else?

    PT
     
  2. MrWillyWonka

    MrWillyWonka Chocolate computers galore!

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    Well, you don't want a crappy hdd if you want a reliable server! You only need about 20GB (even 10GB will do) for the OS and apps. And there is something else you need... an OS!

    Windows Server 2003 is a nice server and runs well on a P3 so does 2000 Server.

    Take a look around the forums, there are plenty of threads like this. Wrong forum, moving to Hardware!
     
  3. Pre_Tender

    Pre_Tender New Member

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    k tnx...

    i'll search
     
  4. Ramble

    Ramble Ginger Nut

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    What are you using it for?

    I recommend a linux server, sure it's hard to setup if you've never done it before but the right combo can lead to a bloody fast server which is damn reliable.
     
  5. Glider

    Glider /dev/null

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    I second a Linux distro over any flavour of Windows... You should be looking into FreeNAS if you just want a fileserver... It takes 50MB of space, and is easy, secure and lightweight
     
  6. Pre_Tender

    Pre_Tender New Member

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    wow...tnx

    i was told by some friends to choose linux over windows at any time but as said above...
    might be some trouble as i've never installed or worked with linux...

    good thing my little bro is an ict'er :D
     
  7. Buzzons

    Buzzons Active Member

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    depends what you want it to do when you chose the OS, windows will do anything, and if you later change the roll of the box, it will have no issue with it, where as if you set up a cut down linux install just for one thing, you will find that if you want to change the servers roll, it will require a full reinstall, or hours of changing settings..

    I vote 2k3 server (running it now on many a box), its great.
     
  8. Pre_Tender

    Pre_Tender New Member

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    i'm sorry but i'm not really @ home in servers so...
    i just want a ''cheap'' good working reliable server with about 200 to 500 gig's of space for storage so i can load everything from my server

    for this... is there a quick server needed or is an old system good enough?

    PT
     
  9. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Freenas.org

    Real easy to install and boots off a USB key if you want. Setup is then through a web-interface. Hardware requirements are minimal. It supports loads of hardware as well as RAID.

    Pick up an EPIA board with SATA and Gigabit ethernet (Gigabit will make multiple file transfers easier), a 512MB stick of ram, a cheap 128MB USB stick and buy a couple of 300-320GB harddisks (which are cheap right now), then you have some 550GB of usable space in a potentially tiny low power box :)
     
  10. Glider

    Glider /dev/null

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    I completely disagree... If you have for instance a Samba Fileserver, and you want to make it a gateway (quite a change TBH), you only need to purge the samba packages and get the new packages. Basic setup done in 5-10 minutes (detailed config takes longer, but that's on Windows to) [REF: using a debian based server]. I've done it before, and I will probably do it again (Webserver to MySQL server migration is due at our high school's IT club)

    On specialised distro's like FreeNAS, you can't just add packages that easy... But that isn't considered a cut down Linux distro.
     
  11. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Nope, but linux is a faf unless you know what you're doing, lets be honest. I dont even have a clue what you just said about purging packages. Something about flushing the toilet???
     
  12. Glider

    Glider /dev/null

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    Linux is easy, trying to explain it to a Windows user is the tricky part ;)

    from the apt-get manual:
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    --purge
         Use purge instead of remove for anything that would be removed. An asterisk ("*") will be displayed
         next to packages which are scheduled to be purged. Configuration Item: APT::Get::Purge.
    A difficult way of saying: Get rid of it, and I don't want to see anything remain on the system... [OK, maybe the manual isn't that clear on this]

    Mostly used in the form of"apt-get remove <package> --purge"... But flushing it down the loo has the same effect ;)
     
  13. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Talk about contradictory. Don't use remove to remove something, that would be too obvious.

    The apt-get-remove-do a money dance, again, means SFA to a windows user.
     
  14. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    Purge is more then remove. Remove may just mean "Remove this from the system, but don't edit config files" whereas Purge may mean "Completely remove any trace of this, don't even think of searching again, look through all the configuration files and remove all traces"
     
  15. Pre_Tender

    Pre_Tender New Member

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    aha.... so i'll lookup the freenas stuff :D

    PT
     

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