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Motherboards windwithme’s X58 review Part12-GIGABYTE X58A-UD7 the New Generation Spec Review

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by windwithme, 7 Jan 2010.

  1. windwithme

    windwithme Active Member

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    Since LGA1366 launched at the end of 2008, there are not many news in the market recently.
    Instead the new LGA1156 has very high exposure rate in all medias.
    These 2 structures are very similar and make users hard to choose as the different strength.

    LGA 1366, the extreme level product line and will have 6 cores CPU soon.
    Currently X58 chipset support 3 channel and 6 DIMMs DDR3 for higher extensibility and Quad core CPU with HT technology.
    LGA 1156 is the following segment. P55 is single chip and the power consumption is lower.
    HT version CPU and LGA 1136 are similar price. i5-750 is the most valuable choice so far.
    In the future, i3 dual-core will make LGA 1156 product line be richer, but still only the combination of dual-core, quad-core and HT.

    Even though there are not many news of X58 MB, but it’s still the top end product in Intel platform.
    USB3.0 and SATA3 are launched in these 2 months, and most manufacturers implement with P55 MB.
    Compared to X58 revision, there is only GIGABYTE X58A-UD7.
    GIGABYTE X58A-UD7 is the key role for this review.
    Let’s look at the appearance first.
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    Accessories
    User’s manual, software manual, driver CD
    SATA/eSATA cables, USB Port bracket
    CrossFire and 3WAY SLI bridge
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    Lower Left Corner
    4 X PCI-E, the bandwidth is 2 X16 and 2 X8, support CrossFire and 3WAY SLI
    2 X PCI-E X1
    1 X PCI
    Realtek 8111D dual LAN chipset support Teaming
    Realtek ALC889, supports 7.1 channel and High Definition Audio/Dolby Home Theater technology
    Design in Taipei
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    Lower Right Corner
    6 X blue SATAII provided by ICH10R, SATA2 supports RAID 0, RAID 1, RAID 5 and RAID 10
    2 X white SATAIII, provided by Marvell 9128, SATA3 supports RAID 0, RAID 1
    2 X white SATAII, provided by GIGABYTE SATA2 chip, SATA2 supports RAID 0, RAID 1 and JBOD
    1 X IDE,GIGABYTE SATA2chip provide
    Dual BIOS dual protection, also built-in Debug LED
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    Upper Right Corner
    6 X DIMM DDR3, supports 800/1066/1333/2200, the max DDR3 capacity is 24GB
    Cyan big button is Power and blue small button is Reset
    DDR3 uses 2 phases PWM and next is 24-PIN power connector
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    Upper Left Corner
    LGA 1366 CPU socket, and CPU metal cover is electroplated.
    X58A-UD7 uses 24 phase PWM. It’s same as own P55-UD6 design and the highest in X58 board in the market now.
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    IO
    4 X USB 2.0(Yellow)
    2 X USB 3.0(Blue)
    2 X RJ-45 LAN
    2 X eSATA/USB 2.0 Combo
    1 X S/PDIF Fiber/Coaxial output
    1 X 1394a
    clr CMOS button
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    Full look after installing the Hybird SILENT-PIPE
    These heat pipe is also used in previous X58-EXTREME
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    The shortcoming is lose one PCI-E X1 after installation
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  2. windwithme

    windwithme Active Member

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    The screw holes next to NB heat sink are used to install Hybird SILENT-PIPE
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    This heat pipe also supports water cooling system.
    The user can install the pipe into it without buying a water cooling block.
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    USB 3.0 chip is NEC D720200F1
    3x USB power design to provide 3 times electric current by independent chip for all USB ports.
    It can solve the insufficient power issue which may cause read write lose as using external storages.
    I will test USB 3.0 performance later.
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    Below SB heat sink is Marvell SE9128 chip which supports SATA3
    SATA3 ports is SATA6 and SATA7 in upper side.
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    Boot Screen
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    MB Intelligent Tweaker, also called M.I.T.
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    DDR3 parameters setting. X58 supports three channel, so there are 3 sets items
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    Voltage Page
    Load-Line Calibration StandardLevel1/Level2
    CPU Vcore 0.50000~1.90000V
    QPI/Vtt Voltage 1.120~2.000V
    IOH Core 0.850~2.080V
    CPU PLL 1.000~2.580V
    DRAM Voltage 1.300~2.600V
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    Advanced CPU Features
    C1E is power saving and lower frequency feature. It runs automatically as low CPU utility rate.
    Intel Turbo Boost is opposite with C1E. It will increase clock in full speed operation.
    You can find many articles in internet.
    Because of the limited space, also I had detail review in previous product, so I won’t explain Intel Turbo Boost
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    PC Health Status
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    X58A-UD7 is GIGABYTE most high end product. The voltage and items in BIOS are rich
    The setting is stable at 175/2100. If your hardware OC capability is good, you can refer to this set up.
    I hope it is valuable for your configuration.
     
  3. Bolx

    Bolx The Dogs

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    Nice review, great pictures too! :D
     
  4. windwithme

    windwithme Active Member

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    Test Configuration
    CPU: Gulftown 2.40GHz ES
    MB: GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD7
    DRAM: CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C8
    VGA: GIGABYTE GTX260 OC SLI 3WAY
    HD: Seagate Barracuda XT 2TB
    POWER: CORSAIR TX950W
    Cooler: Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme
    OS: Windows7 Ultimate 64bit
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    GIGABYTE “A” version means supporting SATA3 and USB 3.0 technologies
    First, let’s see the difference of SATA3.
    This time I use Seagate latest Barracuda XT.
    It supports SATA3 and backward compatible with SATA2
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    In SATA2, bandwidth 3Gbps
    HD Tune Pro 3.50 average read is 110.0 MB/s
    ATTO DISK Benchmark over 8k can reach highest read in 142 MB/s and write in 139 MB/s
    CrystalDiskMark is read 143.1 Mb/s and write 137.6 MB/s
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    HD Tune Pro 3.50 average write is 104.5 MB/s
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    In SATA3, bandwidth 6Gbps
    HD Tune Pro 3.50 average read is 110.0 MB/s
    ATTO DISK Benchmark over 8k can reach highest read in 142 MB/s and write in 137 MB/s
    CrystalDiskMark is read 143.1 Mb/s and write 139.1 MB/s
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    HD Tune Pro 3.50 average write is 104.1 MB/s
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    As the test in SATA2 and SATA3, the performance is not big different in normal application.
    After all, SATA2 bandwidth is 3Gbps, means 300MB/s and SATA6 is 6Gbps, 600MB/s
    This spec is for max bandwidth, especially for multi-HDD RAID5 or SSD RAID0.
    SATA3 will bring the max bandwidth into full play in such conditions.

    USB test is using BUFFALO 1.0TB external HDD. It’s very rare USB 3.0 product so far
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    Plug into USB 2.0 port
    HD Tune Pro 3.50 average read is 33.2 MB/s
    ATTO DISK Benchmark over 64k can reach highest read in 35 MB/s and write is 32 MB/s
    CrystalDiskMark is read 35.25 Mb/s and write 32.76 MB/s
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    Plug into blue USB 3.0 port
    HD Tune Pro 3.50 average read is 120.4 MB/s
    ATTO DISK Benchmark over 64k can reach highest read in 154 MB/s and write in 159 MB/s
    CrystalDiskMark is read 154.3 Mb/s and write156.2 MB/s
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    FDEBENCH test is read in 126 Mb/s and write in 136 MB/s
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    Formerly, USB 2.0 max bandwidth is around 30~35 MB/s. It’s fatal wound for USB devices.
    FLASH mostly is MLC, is very hard to reach 30 MB/s.
    However for users who using 2.5/3.5” USB external box, HDD performance is above 50 MB/s~100 Mb/s
    USB 2.0 bandwidth will limit the products performance.
    This issue will be solved soon as more and more USB3.0 MB.
     
  5. windwithme

    windwithme Active Member

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    For the DRAM test, supporting 3 channels is big advantages for X58 platform.
    I use the famous extreme memory maker, CORSAIR DOMINATOR-GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C8, supports 3-channel.
    Black/Red color make GT be more attractive
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    DDR3 2100 CL8 8-8-24 1T, BIOS set as 1.600V
    SP2004 3 X Blend mode, 5.88GB stable in full load
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    Sandra Memory Bandwidth - 30925 MB/s
    EVEREST Memory Read - 21274 MB/s
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    DDR3 OC can reach 2100 CL8 easily and only need 1.600V
    Besides DOMINATOR-GT CMG6GX3M3A2000C8 quality is great, the X58A-UD7 OC capability is also in good standard.
    It makes the combination be even greater.
    Comparing to P55 dual channel performance, X58 3-channel bandwidth is much higher.


    The CPU is Gulftown, 6 cores and HT technology work as 12
    It’s not selling in the market yet, but there are many CPU test since August.
    CPU OC to 4GHz to see some future structure performance

    CPU 175 X 23 => 4025MHz
    DDR3 2100 CL8 8-8-24 1T

    Hyper 12 X PI 32M=> 14m 53.289s
    CPUMARK 99=> 620
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    CINEBENCH R10
    1 CPU=> 5662
    x CPU=> 31983
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    PCMark Vantage
    GTX260 SLI 2WAY=> 20313
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    GTX260 SLI 3WAY=> 27205
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    During the test, you can see many software only support 4-8 cores.
    In physical 6 cores plus HT, some benchmark scores decreased rather than increased.
    I think the software need to improve more in this condition.
    SLI 3WAY is also the same. CrystalMark 2004R3 scores is decreased.
    So far, some software cannot support this high spec 100%.
    However, Gulftown with SLI 3WAY really get the higher benchmark scores.


    GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD7
    Good
    1.X58A-UD7 uses GIGABYTE most high end components and technologies
    2.Support 3WAY SLI and CFX. NV system can use PhyX to build 4 VGA
    3.SATA3 use high end Marvell 9128 chip. USB 3.0 uses NEC chip
    4.BIOS items are rich and wide voltage items. CPU/DDR3 OC ability is great.
    5.Built-in 6 SATAII, 2 USB/eSATA and 2 USB 3.0
    6.Hybird SILENT-PIPE enhance the thermal solution. NB also support water cooling block

    Weak
    1.Hybird SILENT-PIPE will block one PCI-E X1
    2.LAN and Audio chips are all Realtek. They could consider for some better one.

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    Performance ★★★★★★★★★★
    Components ★★★★★★★★★★
    Specification ★★★★★★★★★☆
    Outlook ★★★★★★★★★☆
    C/P Value ★★★★★★★☆☆☆

    GIGABYTE X58A-UD7 is really the new blood for X58 platform
    Except enhance the components, it also implements latest USB 3.0 and SATA3
    LGA 1156 doesn’t sell well because i7 CPU plus P55 price is almost the same as LGA 1366
    After LGA 1156 i3 CPU launch, the platform should be cheaper and rise the C/P value.
    For the current market, LGA 1366 is still the most high end one.

    SATA3 is helpless for users who only use 1~2 HDD.
    7200rpm HDD performance is around 100~120 MB/s.
    However, for milti-HDD and SSD users, SATA3 is a great improvement.

    The most attractive part is USB 3.0. USB2.0 has been using for years.
    30~35 MB/s bandwidth is too slow for most USB external storage users.
    USB 3.0 can reach 150 MB/s in test which is almost 5 times faster.
    This technology is more practical.

    GIGABYTE announced GIGABYTE X58A-UD7 is high standard in overall performance.
    Previous GIGABYTE X58 series can support Gulftown 6 cores CPU by upgrading BIOS.
    It’s a pity that LAN and Audio can use better chip to match their high end components level.
    If you want to build a top level PC, LGA 1366 is your best choice.
    For top MB, X58 price is higher, but compare to the same price range X58 products, UD7 is still competitive. :)
     
  6. oasked

    oasked Stuck in the Mud

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    Damn, you always get the best hardware! :D
    Nice review, excellent photos too!

    Do you notice the extra performance of Gulftown over Bloomfield?
     
  7. doclucas

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    Awesome review! I have the exact same motherboard, F2 bios, and the same Corsair RAM.
    The only difference is my CPU which is i7 975 3.33
    I have tried to use the exact same settings that you posted, but I Windows doesn't even fully boot. Do you have any suggestion for a system with i7 975?
    By the way, how did you capture the Award BIOS screens?
     
  8. el2k

    el2k MX Reds

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    Very very nice review, full of a LOT of useful information.

    I'm just about to start a new i7 build.
    I was wondering if you could give me some advice, I'm currently stuck on which motherboard to choose, It is between this one and the ASUS Rampage II Extreme.

    I will be using the i7 920 and the Corsair Dominator GT 2000Mhz if that is of any help.

    Any advice is appreciated.

    Thanks a lot
    Liam
     
  9. Guest-16

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    VGA2USB probably. We use the same thing.

    RE 975: dial it back until it boots, or, check your temperatures.

    And I must resist comments about your Gulftown overclock otherwise Intel (and James) will hit me with an NDA stick >_<

    RE UD7: I do very much like Gigabyte boards but you've missed the fact the northbridge heatsink is the stupidest ****ing idea. Look at its thermals - HOW does the chipset heat rise into the other areas? Through tiny fins that get no air? The contact area for all that thermal transfer is pathetic and I doubt it's all soldered in.

    Not to mention the "24 phase" bollocks - you don't EVER need it. You'd need TWO 8-pin CPU12V sockets before you fulfilled 24 phases. Not even EVGA includes that many. Yet, you're paying for it in the cost of the UD7.

    Typical Gigabyte: 100% show and marketing bollocks when 50% is enough to achieve the same effect. I will put money on the fact that if you bought an X58A UD5 or even UD3R you'd get the exact same overclock because the top to bottom BIOS' are identical. It's the same with P55 - UD2 oc's as much as UD5!
     
  10. el2k

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    Hi, Thanks for the reply..

    In my build i will be using water-cooling, So if i get this motherboard over the Rampage II Extreme then its saving me £100 on motherboard water blocks...

    How is the cooling on this motherboard with water? Anyone know?

    Cheers
     
  11. Guest-16

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    Look at where the waterblock is - I seriously doubt it will benefit the board from such little thermal transfer? It's a gimmick inclusion without real technical backing. You'll introduce more restriction into the loop than you will get a benefit from using the block.
     
  12. TWeaK

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    @el2k - Gotta agree with Bindi. If saving money is your goal I'm sure you could get a cheaper mobo than this and get some decent waterblocks. You'll get better performance to boot.

    OT, great review wind, that OC is awesome! :jawdrop:
     
  13. el2k

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    Thanks for the feedback, It's kind of out me off this board now...

    I don't really have that many options as I didn't really want to spend much more than £300...

    Do you think the Rampage II Extreme at around £270 and then £100 for the Waterblocks is worth it?
    Also how is the performance in comparison to this? As i believe the Rampage doesn't have USB 3.0 or Sata 6Gbs...

    Thanks again
     
  14. el2k

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    Ok, How about this mobo with http://www.ekwaterblocks.com/shop/ek-fb-kit-ga-x58-ud7-nickel.html cooling it?

    I understand if i want to go for maximum performance and the best Overclocks i can then i need to keep the NB/SB and Mosfet cool too. So i guess i'm going to have to fork out for both the motherboard and waterblocks.

    Still the problem arises, This or The Rampage II Extreme.

    Any advice or comparison on these two would be awesome.

    Thanks
     
  15. AnniGTI_Court

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    Sweet write up as I alredy have this board, I'm buildng it slow time. Now I know what to aim for!
     
  16. Cyberpower-UK

    Cyberpower-UK Professional Overclocker

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    Keep pushing, I have 4.25GHz stable, 4.5GHz benchable (~40k Vantage CPU, ~34k CinebenchR10) on P6T Deluxe V2 with air cooling.

    Also hit 4.25GHz stable on first boot with P6X58D Premium and Rampage II Extreme.
     
  17. thehippoz

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    like how the tunic tower looks
     
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    can i ask which motherboards will work with this CPU and would i need a special bios to make it work?

    i also got engineering sample of this
     

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