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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Kronos, 14 Feb 2016.

  1. Kronos

    Kronos Multimodder

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    I cam across this on Facebook where the guy is selling this as a gaming rig for a £1000. Now I am not up on AMD cards but an HD7850 would seem way down the list as far as gaming cards are concerned but of course I might be totally wrong.
    Any way here is the list:
    * CPU: Intel Ivy Bridge i5 3570K, £130.00
    * Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LX, £30.00
    * RAM: Patriot Viper Red 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz, £60.00
    * GPU: AMD Radeon HD7850 2GB, £85.00
    * HD: Samsung 840 Series Pro 256GB 2.5 inch SATA SSD, £90.00
    * Case: ThermalTake BlacX & 750W Gold PSU, £50.00
    * Cooler: Thermaltake Contac Heatsink, £20.00
    * Keyboard: Logitech Mechanical Gaming Keybord G710+, £70.00
    * Mouse: Logitech G600 MMO USB Gaming Mouse, £35.00
    * Monitor 1: Asus VG248QE 24-inch 3D LED Monitor - 144 Hz, 1ms, £230.00
    * Monitor 2: ASUS VS247H, £110.00
    * Headphones: Logitech Wireless Gaming Headset G930, £75.00
    * Webcam: Logitech C270 HD, £15.00
    * Speakers: Logitech Z120, £10.00
    * Mousepad: Logitech G240 Cloth Gaming Mouse Pad, £15.00
    * Other: Roccat Apuri Active USB-Hub with Mouse Bungee, £25.00
    * Other: Inateck Superspeed 7 Ports PCI-E to USB 3.0 Expansion Card, £29.00
    * Other: Duronic DM552 Spring Double Twin LCD LED Sprung Desk Mount Arm Monitor Stand Bracket with Tilt and Swivel, £65.00

    The prices are seemingly what one could expect to pay on the bay. What individual prices would you place on the components and as a whole?
    PS: I am not interested in buying by the way.
     
  2. Parge

    Parge the worst Super Moderator

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    This isn't really what the marketplace is for. Moving to hardware.
     
  3. rollo

    rollo Modder

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    A 3rd of the cost is the value he places on the monitors and they are always a difficult thing to price.

    Rest of his prices are around eBay prices for PC parts. The only thing over priced is the SSD from my point of view you can nearly buy a 512gb drive for his cost of asking. New toshiba drives are dirt cheap. No matter what performance differences there are outside of benchmarks most will not notice it.
     
  4. Harlequin

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    ram would be £30 now - £60 gets you 2x8gb of most kit and that new

    7850? you can get a brand new R7 370 for £95 on ocuk so a fiver less for an older card? not so much - tbh I wouldput it at £40

    cpu? £80 second hand
     
  5. Kronos

    Kronos Multimodder

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    I recently bought a similar SSD for £45 so I was struck by the price Ebay would charge.
     
  6. LennyRhys

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    A lot of the components are overpriced, eg the RAM for starters. £60 for 8GB??? Dabs are selling 2x4GB Vengeance 1600MHz for £34.

    If this is a second hand sale, there's no way in Hades it's worth £1,000.
     
  7. meandmymouth

    meandmymouth Multimodder

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    Looks to me like everything on there is at least 25% overpriced.
     
  8. wolfticket

    wolfticket Downwind from the bloodhounds

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    If I had a penny for every bit of hardware or system locally listed and overpriced...

    I figure it's mostly people a bit out of the loop expecting to get back a higher than realistic proportion of what they originally paid, as opposed to actually trying to rip people off.
     
  9. Kronos

    Kronos Multimodder

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    I totally agree with that. I have chatter to the seller and he seems a reasonable guy but as you say a less than realistic attempt to get back a reasonable return.
     
  10. tiger-moth

    tiger-moth What's a Dremel?

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    I wouldn't pay a grand for all that.

    I paid less for my new x99 bundle which came with a 512gb samsung 951 nvme drive, 16 gig DDR4 3000, AIO 240 cpu cooler, 5820k, x99 gaming 5p, plus I got a new Sapphire 390 8gb nitro OC and had plenty of change from a grand to get a new 24" 2nd monitor (plus a new 240 SSD brought the lot to about £1018)
    Got that in november.

    I did see some pretty cheap nearly new x99 rigs going on ebay, which had presumably been sold as part of some previous bundle offer - better value stuff around if you look.
     
  11. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Those prices are optimistic at best, hilariously wide of the mark at worst...

    The RAM and SSD stand out as 'you want what?'... You can buy both of those things new for less than what he wants 2nd hand...
     
  12. Behemoth

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    I wouldn't give a grand for that either, the GPU is quite old. Capable but still old considering the latest AMD generation of GPU's is a 390x.

    He's looking at £700 if he's lucky. He would have more chance of shifting it parted out rather than as a full system.

    Looking at the core parts, and people can shoot me down if they like if they think my pricing is off but this is what I would price the core parts at.

    * CPU: Intel Ivy Bridge i5 3570K, £80.00
    * Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-V LX, £30.00
    * RAM: Patriot Viper Red 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz, £30.00.
    * GPU: AMD Radeon HD7850 2GB, £45.00
    * HD: Samsung 840 Series Pro 256GB 2.5 inch SATA SSD, £90.00 @ this price is taking the urine more like £45.00.
    * Case: ThermalTake BlacX & 750W Gold PSU, £50.00 - if based on £25 a piece then not too bad.
    * Cooler: Thermaltake Contac Heatsink, £15.00.
     
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  13. tiger-moth

    tiger-moth What's a Dremel?

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    Damn right.
    I saw some pretty good systems go for around £700 on ebay, when I got my new system - much more capable and newer generation than what he's selling.
     
  14. Behemoth

    Behemoth Timelord in training

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    I generally do no rely on ebay for prices of anything. I tend to find they are massively inflated for what the parts are.
     
  15. CrapBag

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    He's probably basing his prices on cex prices

    They want £80 for a 2gb 7850 which is over priced.

    People on Facebook aren't interested in my 7850 for £40.
     
  16. Behemoth

    Behemoth Timelord in training

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    I tried selling laptop on a facebook group, I was asking £160 for a reasonable spec laptop, people were only offering me £50 !

    CEX are just a bunch of money grabbing pigs. I've been banned from my local store pointing out that they had described an item wrong. Geforce GTS 8800, not a GTX. They had it advertsed a 1 gig card when the label on the back of the card said that it was a 320 meg model, when I pointed this out the verbal abuse I got was unreal.

    Online they only offer to buy old CPU's for pennies and then sell them on for £15.00. I call this day light robbery, at least Dick Turpin wore a mask. I do accept a business does need to make a profit, but really offering such a small amount ?
     
  17. PcShedTV

    PcShedTV What's a Dremel?

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    Ok, the system is way overpriced, by at least £300 with the going rate of prices for the components used. I buy and sell a lot of computers, components on Ebay and the amount of people who is trying to sell their kit and expect to get near the same amount they paid is unbelievable (especially if they built their own pc)
    Its like buying a car. New, you bite the bullet and pay full price. Same car which is 3 months old, 30% less.
    Computer parts depreciate so quick as new items are being released all the time, even a top of the line Asus Strix 970 GTX GPU, 2nd hand can be bought for £185 when new costs £284.99

    Older graphics cards is even worse. I put for sale yesterday on facebook a 690GTX dual gpu which was near £1000 when it was released. Now its still a solid graphics card but there no way i will get that money back, £200-£250 tops and still people think this is too much!
     
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  18. rollo

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    This close to new gpus people are lucky it's that. Once Nvidia and AMD announce next gen prices will drop a lot also.
     
  19. FaeLLe

    FaeLLe What's a Dremel?

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    Well nobody forced you to sell to them.
    Where a value added service is being performed the profit margins need to be higher due to the risk appetite.
     
  20. stephen0205

    stephen0205 MrSteve

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    so not worth a grand. Cex is ok for deals sometimes on things that have been exactally as u said. Mixed labels. I have had a few pc bargins on hard drives and gpus over the years
     

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