Other General Battlefield 3 discussion thread

With the sniper / DMR route if they were to do it they'd have to go down the specialised DMR guns route rather than other sniper rifles. EG. DMR's for US use a modified M16 iirc not a M21 or M14, with the UK they use the longer barrel version of the SA80 etc.

 

Indeed, none of the comments here have been. Sorry, I should have stated that my comment was directed to other sources of comments, such as RPS. Been a hell of a day today, so my phrasing of things isn't getting the best of my attention.

My comment towards the statement of it being pre-alpha software was mainly directed towards comments that I have seen here and there that are stressing that "meh, it looks rather shoddy, especially the destruction engine" and othe general statements about the graphics. The implementation of QTE's is fine in my opinion and if they are done well and not overused (ala Black Ops, which I thought was less of an FPS and more of a QTE experience), then rock on. In situations, such as a surprise hand-to-hand fight, they could help to raise the tension of the moment a little.

Certainly voicing a solid opinion and highlighting things that may have well been overlooking is what developers need in pre-release builds, although a video thread would hardly be the best place to look for constructive feedback
Generally commenting "looks crap, CoD did it better lols" or whatever the usual comments tend to be that seemingly come from people who merely glance at a video without actually paying attention to the absurd level of detail that is actually shown, does not provide good feedback, or even interesting reading.
I listed a few things that really stuck out for me in that video (the variance of sounds based on direction and location especially) and would find them to be of more interest than "meh".

Certainly not looking to berate any comments here as the majority have been decent and well said

 

Actually the US use the DMR (gee, I wonder what that stands for) which is a modified M14, and the SR25 which I mentioned anyway.

 

Anyone else feel the LMG is again too accurate?

Or all of the bits where LMG were shot are mounted?


I want unmounted LMG even when ADS, shoots all over the places. It's got 100 per clip FFS, with M14 level of accuracy, what's the point of other weapons?

 

Ah reet my bad I swear they use / used to use a modified M16 at squad levels.

 

The latest trailer looks fantastic, and I can't remember where but I read it would have a 12-hour campaign.

Can't wait

 

I'm always a little skeptical of times given for campaigns. Two different players of the same game can feasibly get start to completion times of 9 hours and 12 hours respectively on the same game just by the way each of them plays.

Obviously when a report says something like 12 hours it just means to say "long", but it always bugs me.

 

Unless they've just taken an average from any tests they've run?

 

An average is still dependent on the values it's being taken from. Maybe they all play relatively faster or slower than any given player might?

And are there any optional things? Items such as the MCOM stations in BFBC2 some players may totally ignore, or put off for a second play through, or search for fervently on the first play through! That can totally change the total play time, and if someone is to go back again for the optional objectives doesn't that count as even more campaign time?

Whenever I get a save file that's different from what reviews/rumors/releases say I have to wonder what variable it was!

(And as a little proof of concept: I first played through Metal Gear Solid expecting I could do it in a night since my friend's completed save file was on the memory card at 8 hours. It took me 16 hours. It's not the same since that wasn't his first play file, but you get the idea)

 

It does look very accurate maybe the gun to use.

 

Well the SR25 is based on the M16 platform IIRC.

 

In all fairness, he's pumping at least 10-20 rounds at a target at less than 100m.

LMG's are more accurate than you'd think. I've fired a PKM and at 150m, a 10 round burst will all hit centre mass.

Saying it's as accurate as an M14 is a *bit* of a stretch

 

Looking at the stats for bfbc2, M60 and M14 are pretty much the same, in accuracy and damage!

At least make them run really slow! I don't want to see another Medic rush tactic.

 

As far as I can remember, they both share the same round (7.62x51) and the PKM has the 7.62x54. If they fired a single shot, then I wouldn't be too surprised if the M60 was reasonably accurate at long range, that is what its design intended

Yes, this is a game, so there is no need for perfect realism in the weapons.
Pumping 10-20 rounds at targets around 50m away and just about dropping them hardly classes it as being too accurate. Keep it similar to BF2, standing you could hardly hit a thing with a PKM, but put it on the deck and you'd mill through an on-coming squad in short order

 

They are going on average it seems like, but even on average it will be double the time of single player campaigns of MW2, BC2, Blackops, and MoH.
But it doesnt matter because it's positive move to add more value to the game.

 

+1 this. a hundred time this!

LMG role are spray + suppression. should only be accurate enough to kill when supported by bi-pod.

 

A few crouched shots, or some lucky close range ADS shots would work fine, but not against numbers. To me, that's how the LMG appeared in the FL:Ep3 video.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Designated_marksman_rifle

On a side note I hope any of the laser/tatical lights that are mounted on to the weapons work and can be seen by the player.

 

Yeah but what I've read and ment was it is basically in some infantary units a M16 with longer barrel and a ACOG / slightly higher power scope

Either way still cant wait for this game.. despite the fact my PC will struggle to run it

 

I'm liking the new bipod action in the new trailer Anyone else dig the Little Bird at the end? Here's to hoping it'll be available to use in MP