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Windows Classic FPS/RPGs

Discussion in 'Gaming' started by CardJoe, 21 Oct 2007.

  1. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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    Turn off Hyper threading. The DromEd engine, and a lot of old Looking Glass games, have problems with Hyper threading.

    Also, look here for tech help on the game:
    http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&ct...GDgGybtsXNcOGEwAw&sig2=9aOMqo4IBhsJfTkGrdppgw
    http://forums.eidosgames.com/showthread.php?t=56028
    http://www.ttlg.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75031

    I told you it would be a bitch to get working, but there are ways to do it. It's getting cheats AND compatibility which is a real headache.
     
  2. Veles

    Veles DUR HUR

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    Tried that, didn't make any difference :(
     
  3. blackerthanblack

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    Try editing the config text file, especially if you have an ATI card. You need to take out the (semi?) colon at the start of the safe textures entry (something like that, I'm still at work, so can't get to my install).

    Thief series was fantastic, I'm playing through the 2nd again at the moment. I've never actually finished Deadly Shadows, just waiting till I finish The Metal Age again, then I'll be right in there again.

    Probably the best games I've played, although I've never tried Deus Ex:rolleyes:
     
  4. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

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    You should play Deus Ex. If you like Thief then you can totally tackle Deus Ex in a similar stealth manner, but have more freedom for assassinations.
     
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  5. blackerthanblack

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    I've been meaning to grab this game for ages and never got around to it. Hardly have the time at the mo as I'm doing major work on my house, hopefully I'll be in a better situation nearer the crimbo holidays.
     
  6. Veles

    Veles DUR HUR

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    Deus Ex is a great game, well worth playing, you can grab it and the sequel (no where near as good but certainly not a bad game, I'm quite enjoying it even if it isn't the sequel it should have been) off steam for not too much. DX works perfectly fine so long as you only have it working on one core and DX: IW works perfectly fine.

    What I think companies should start doing is re-releasing true classics like Thief, keeping the core mechanics, dialogue, etc. all the same but just updating the engine and coding to make it compatible with current machines. Kind of like Half-Life: Source but improving the graphics (since no-one would buy a game with old graphics these days).

    EDIT: Bah found this which sounds like the thing you were on about blacker http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/sb/CS-003810.htm and it seems to be the fix I need

    But when I open up the user.cfg file it's completely blank :wallbash:
     
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  7. Snowball

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    Didn't Thief bankrupt Looking Glass? Graphics are where all the cost of the game is to start with. Thief was great but I don't think anyone bought it until it was $20.
    Sierra tried releasing the same old game with new graphics years ago, like Space Quest and Quest For Glory. They did alright, but not very good.

    Everybody who's gonna check them out either buys them in the bargin bin, or downloads them off torrents. At 5+ years I think a game's potential sales is dead.
     
  8. Mathmarauder

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    There is a player made patch that almost completely fixes the game. I will try to dig up the link.
     
  9. heir flick

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    im sure most of us have played the well known games, but i did enjoy area51 by midway it didnt sell to well but it kept me amused for a while
     
  10. CardJoe

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    No one can remake it anyway really, looking glass turned into Ion Storm Austin, which then went out of business too. The ownership is now too dispersed to track down cheaply.

    Thief didn't bankrupt looking glass - risk did. LG made some of the best games of the time period (and ever), but they weren't games that appealed to a mass audience and as a result they didn't sell too well. System Shock 1 and 2, Thief 1 and 2, Flight Unlimited, Ultima Underworld - these were some of the games they made, but Mom and Pop gamers didn't want to buy them for their kids. The company split up and went different ways, going on to work on things like HL2, Oblivion, BioShock, etc. The core team mostly went to John Romeros Ion Storm Austin Branch and got headed up by the awesome Warren Spector. They then went on to make Deus Ex and Thief: DS and finally started making profit. Unfortunately, Romero was a dick, Spector left and Romero mismanaged the company but prioritising his own shitty games like Daikantana. The company went bankrupt, IP rights dispersed even more and Spector had to found his own studio, which is now owned by Disney. That last point isn't as bad as it sounds.
     
  11. Veles

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    I disagree, a good game like Deus Ex and Thief will sell if they remake it, a lot of the market will probably never have played the original games, so to them it would look like a new awesome game, and to the old market it would be a remake of an amazing game. Usually I'm not a big fan of remakes, but if they manage to keep the game exactly the same, maybe add in a few improvements to the game that later games have had, but give it a nice new graphics engine then it will very likely sell as to many people it will be an amazing new game. It will also mean it works on my computer XD

    It's kind of a half job as well, the core design of the game is there already (although with the expensive part left like hiring a warehouse of texture artists and animators), although I think for my "next gen" (I should stop saying that seeing as I hate when people use it) Thief I might have to settle for Assassins Creed, which I'm hoping doesn't turn out to be a pile of crap (well, a pile of average) which I suspect it might.

    I think it could work for some games so long as it's done right, we've had developers experiment with episodic content, I wouldn't mind seeing one experiment with this one to see how it works out in both a business sense and a gaming sense.

    BlueByte have done it already with the 10th anniversary edition of Settlers II, which I think is a great game and really improves upon the original game, it's kind of like what I expect from a remake of a classic. With S2 remake, the graphics system was improved, but it kept the charm of the original game. They also improved the gameplay a lot, the original S2 wasn't particularly beginner friendly, this was back in the day where your tutorial was your manual, but again, they kept true to the original game. The only problem I had with it was 1) It's not dual core friendly, which I think is unacceptable for a game that's only a few months old and 2) There aren't quite as many races now, but the only difference that ever made to S2 was aesthetics
     
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  12. Pha3dr0n

    Pha3dr0n Where's my Valium?

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    I got a hold of Rogue Trooper - kinda cheesy, but just like the comic (is 2000AD still about?). I've been playing it for hours - loads of sniping (after the 1st level) and stealth. Will definately kill the weekend :)
     
  13. blackerthanblack

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    That's the one, never seen it on Intel before though. Are you sure you are opening it in notepad? Seems strange it's blank.
     
  14. Veles

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    Yep definitely in notepad but there's nothing there at all :(
     
  15. boiled_elephant

    boiled_elephant Merom Celeron 4 lyfe

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    Pandora Tomorrow was fantastic. I only ever played it on xbox, too - bet it's waaay better on PC.

    As for my vote...Morrowind, playing as an archer!
     
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