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News First pirated HD DVD movie now on torrent

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Garside, 17 Jan 2007.

  1. orb

    orb satisfying.

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    They don't take that long to download on a 30/30 ;) I just find it easier then going through the trouble learning to rip and get the keys myself
     
  2. Iago

    Iago What's a Dremel?

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    Then you are doing something not quite right. I can find any movie, whether in .mpg, .wmv, .avi or the full DVD in minutes, if not seconds. And that without counting the myriad sites that offer and advertise the latest "release" and give the eLink.

    Not trying to be an ass, mind you...it's just that I think it's very difficult to beat the convenience and ease of use of eMule or BitTorrent. Until the studios find a way to replicate it and sell digital downloads sans DRM, p2p will flourish.

    I have too donwloaded high resolution rips of The Lord of the Rings with mixed results (in .avi format). The Fellowship looked astonishing on my 20' Dell...the Two Towers and Return of the King looked 'meh'...exactly like the DVD but on a 3 Gb file. Anyway, for people donwloading with eMule and the like...HD-DVDs are not yet there. You can easily find 1.5 - 3Gb Xvid files with great resolution...the extra image quality a full HD-DVD rip would give you is barely noticeable for such an increase in size. And people (not me thogh, I have limits) who are already donwloading Cam recorded movies don't seem to care that much about extreme quality.
     
  3. orb

    orb satisfying.

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    Sorry..what? Barely noticable increase in quality? Lets see

    640x380? Or something along the lines of a retail dvd, down sample that for a 3gb xvid rip. Sure the size is big, but this is 2007, I'm not so sure about England but alot of the country is rolling on 8/1 minimum, and lucky people (me included) have access to 100/100+

    1920x1080 full quality no sampling with perfect sound?

    No quality diffrence? Must be having a laugh buddy, have you seen pictures of HD material? Let me show you some fresh from the serenity hd-dvd :naughty:

    http://mitch.pingtimeout.net/random/serenity1.PNG
    http://mitch.pingtimeout.net/random/serenity2.PNG
    http://mitch.pingtimeout.net/random/serenity3.PNG
     
  4. Iago

    Iago What's a Dremel?

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    Granted, the only HD I've seen is 720p trailers from Apple in my monitor (Dell 20') but I didn't notice much difference with several HD rips (XVid) files available in eMule from quite some time now.

    Still I don't care...I'm not jumping to HD players nor TV sets yet. I only wanted to say that for most people d/l with eMule, there's quality enough in DVD rips that from 1.5 gb donwloads and upwards you rapidly reach a point of diminishing returns.
     
  5. oasked

    oasked Stuck in (better) mud

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    Not many people are going to download full disc-images of HD content, pretty much like most people don't download full DVD-images, they are much more likely to download a XVid file of 700mb.

    HD content has been available for a while - particularly in terms of US TV. 24 Season 5 was available just after airing in 720p with 5.1 audio. Yes, it did look good, but not massively over the DVD.
     
  6. JazX101

    JazX101 What's a Dremel?

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    No matter how much security they put on something, it will get broken. For the kudos of being the one to break it if nothing else. Perhaps if said companies stopped charging over-inflated prices then people would be more inclined to buy genuine stuff??
    POV: HD porn will mean greater risk of getting stuck in male arse when zooming lol

    Jaz_knos
     
  7. Smilodon

    Smilodon The Antagonist

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    I buy all my DVDs. I have one downloaded one, but that is because i just can't find it for sale anywhere. There is a noticeable difference between the compressed files ( i have seen several ripped DVDs that i have later bought) and i think the money it cost for a DVD is worth the increase in quality. (if you can wait a couple of months the movies get pretty cheap).

    If you are lucky enough to find a DVD rip online wich is in full quality, you still have to buy a DL DVD-R disc. wich is about half the price of a original movie. And on the original one you get the (correct!) cover aswell.

    When time comes i will buy a HD dvd and/or bly-ray player, as long as the movies stay at about the same price. (let's face it, the media doesn't cost much more to produce, and the cost of making a movie is the same as if it was on DVD).

    OT: Does anyone else just HATE the damn cardboard covers they put on some movies? They look ugly, gets quickly worn and doesn't have the same size as a plastic cover.
     
  8. TheColdLord

    TheColdLord What's a Dremel?

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    HD porn? Not really that interesting....It was and always will be inevitable for something to brake if it can be broken.....(Murphy). Anyway 19GB is way off....no way the q is worth that extra 13GB...I will just lay back wait and see what will happen further :p
     
  9. DXR_13KE

    DXR_13KE BananaModder

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    wont download that much..... in the future.... when i get a job i guarantee i will get original media. :D
     
  10. Sord_Fish

    Sord_Fish What's a Dremel?

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    Whoah thats big!

    Has there been any scene rules made for HD content yet?
     
  11. blade_10w40

    blade_10w40 What's a Dremel?

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    Seed!

    In all honesty the movies that are coming up are all shite. There's nothing in that list I'd want to download.

    Also neither how BackupHDDVD works or what player the keys are being hacked from is a secret. The BackupHDDVD source code comes with program. And as has been said before it just uses the AASC open decryption process. The keys on the other hand were ment to be hard to get but as soon as one was out they were flying. Here's a quick rundown...

    13th January
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    Doom9 forum member posts a link to a Pastbin post http://pastebin.com/853659 that contains a riddle to find the 1st title key in the wild. The key turns out to be genuin and for the move Serenity. It is apparently the 2nd Tittle Key.

    02.54
    Another Doom9 forum member posts all 11 tittle keys for Surenity and all 8 for KingKong. From the 1st post of a tittle key on Doom9 it took 2 and a half hours for Janvitos to post this. That is very impressive, although this was slightly more impressive.

    03.05
    The same Doom9 forum member posts the Volume keys for Serenity, KingKong and 12Monkeys. This made it possable to rip these movies with a single Volume Key rather than however many title keys (the AASC spec allows up to 64 tittle keys for a single movie).

    Thing is there's more than just one program the keys can be gained from. Only one has been posted as working so when it get's banned by AASC the next one will be used. And as we've already got a lode of the codes it should be as simple as looking for those codes in the new software players, as best I understand it. That is unelss they ban those versions of the HDDVDs which will piss off everyone that bought them.
     
  12. LockmanX

    LockmanX What's a Dremel?

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    "There's still no clear winner in the wars of the disc."

    Sure there is and this thread proves it. Piracy. Huge files or not, its the most convenient way of getting content. Blue-Ray and HD-DVD are DRM ridden nightmares that nobody would deal with if there was a hassle-free alternative.
     
  13. Phil Rhodes

    Phil Rhodes Hypernobber

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    To further my above complaints about the general state of piracy, I find the usual problem with it is that it's very fashion-obsessed - if you want anything that's been out on DVD more than a matter of weeks, you're stuffed. I tried (since I own the DVD, before the attack lawyers are let off the lead) looking for the dismal Owen Wilson vehicle "Behind Enemy Lines." The only one that came up in emule search that wasn't marked as being in a foreign language took nine days to download (never at more than 5k a second) and turned out to be a very, very bad Russian dub.

    Who the hell wouldn't just go and buy the disc? Nine days? Christ. I mean, I don't want to come off as an RIAA shill here, and the way we're fleeced in the UK would be laughable if only it weren't reality, but really - ninety plus percent of pirate material is unwatchable junk which takes an age to get and looks crap once it gets here.

    Please, Universal, Paramount, et al - wise up, I'd love to pay you for your movie, but unless it's available on DVD, I can't. How much of a back-catalogue do these people have languishing in the vaults that aren't worth stamping up on disc because the interest isn't there, which they could encode (carefully!) and make available online for minimal investment?

    I guess I'll spend the money on Russian lessons instead. Я cошла c yма...

    Phil
     
  14. bubsterboo

    bubsterboo What's a Dremel?

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    Well... many people are much much better at pirating then you and can go find a ripped dvd in a few minutes and dl it in a matter of hours.
     
  15. supermonkey

    supermonkey Deal with it

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    You have seen a porn movie, haven't you? There's not really that much make-up involved. Some of the bigger productions may spend a little extra on make-up (maybe even a screenwriter or two), but most porn is low budget, shot in a studio with basic equipment. Even on standard-definition DVDs you can practically count the pimples.

    Now, as we all know size does matter, and both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray offer more space for more content. I believe that will drive the hi-def porn market, rather than seeing naughty parts in super resolution. I read another article about the whole Blu-Ray/porn thing, and the guy at Bangbros said that he preferred HD-DVD over Blu-Ray. He said that even though Blu-Ray offered better quality, HD-DVD was ultimately cheaper to produce.

    -monkey
     
  16. orb

    orb satisfying.

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    Yeah, but they're kind of 'slack' say to speak, compared to how tight the rules are for xvid and the like, so you can get away with pretty much anything..
     
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