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Foxconn FV-N88SMBD2-ONOC (8800 GTS)

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 11 Jan 2007.

  1. Tim S

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  2. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    Can someone please send a copy of this memo to Foxconn:

    Code:
    Re: Stupid naming
    
    To whom it may concern,
    
    we may be geeks, but we don't want stupid names on our products. Sort it OUT!
    
    Many Thanks,
    
    A concerned user
    
    Shame though, I thought it would be a budget OC card, so if it hit £50 above the Palitt card (Palitt is £260~) then it would be spot on!
     
  3. ComputerKing

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    Just Cool !!! BUT I will Keep Mine :hip: Bye , Thanks ,CK
     
  4. trig

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    seems like a bust if those prices hit as projected...
     
  5. Flibblebot

    Flibblebot Smile with me

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    Seems like a lot of money to me...
    btw, do the pictures of the console-type controllers have anything to do with the review, or is it just a teaser shot?
     
  6. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

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  7. DXR_13KE

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    wait a little and save some cash a buy a better card. 8800GTX.
     
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  9. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    awww ffs couldn't you just use graphs to show the performance at identical settings like all the other sites do? It's KINDA logical to test for the best "playable" settings, but still.. Comparing cards would be so much easier if they would've been ran at same settings.

    Other than that GJ.
     
  10. Hugo

    Hugo Ex-TrustedReviews Staff

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    Other sites use "FPS at these framerates with average settings in timedemos"

    Bit-Tech use "Which card allows the best settings at this resolution is actual gameplay"

    Which is more realistic? Which gives a better indication of the card for you?

    Edit:

    Ouch.. what was that price again?

    OcUK 8800 GTX

    This Week Only Offer
    was £314.99 ex vat
    £309.99
    £364.24 inc VAT
     
  11. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    The first one. Except that it would be "Framerates in timedemo with known settings"... B-Ts way might be good if "playable" was a standard and if everyone knew how much of a difference the advantages in graphical settings actually make in a specific game :rolleyes:

    But as I said, this thing will split opinions for sure.
     
  12. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

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    The problem with time demos is that they aren't realistic. You may get 200+FPS on a timedemo, but how often are you going to play that timedemo in real life? Never.

    You are going to use a graphics card to play a game at the best possible view. Which is why I agree with Tims testing method.
     
  13. Tim S

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    Jipa, it ultimately depends what you're after... If I'd tested this card with timedemos and just reported frame rates, I could well have recommended its purchase because it's faster than most 8800 GTS cards out there.

    Instead, the additional performance gained isn't worth the £50+ premium because it doesn't translate into big improvements in image quality in currently popular titles. Thus, it's not recommended at its current price because it represents poor value for money compared to stock 8800 GTS cards and stock 8800 GTX's that sell for £50 either side.
     
  14. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    Well that depends on the lenght of the demo doesn't it? If you take a, let's say 5 minutes, of demo from normal gaming, I'd say it represents the real life gaming pretty well. Besides, nobody usually says the maximal FPS, only average and minimum. These two are, in our 5 min demo, very close to the real life gaming.

    Some sort of combination of these two methods would be optimal, but I understand it would add too much job to the reviewer.
     
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    so VAT is about 15% there....
    in continental Portugal it is about 25%, here it is about 15% with the extra taxes for transport for the islands (Madeira is special, we pay far more that Azores for transport) and port taxes (lot higher that Azores and any port in Portugal).... it gets at about 30% :wallbash: , that is why i buy in shops that get their hardware from Germany, transport fees are really small and it comes all in a plane, less taxes than a port.

    time demos suck, i want to know what i can do with a GC at nice FPS. not the maximum FPS, keep your way to review hardware, i like it :D
     
  16. Tim S

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    It's very close to real life gaming, yes, but it doesn't actually tell you whether there's actually any benefit to those higher frame rates. Once you get above a certain framerate, gameplay is smooth; the question is whether you can actually make use of the additional performance on offer, by increasing in-game quality settings or anti-aliasing, etc.
     
  17. Jipa

    Jipa Avoiding the "I guess.." since 2004

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    (I hope and promise this is my last post to this thread :p)

    That was pretty well said, and I think I understand the point behind this method now. It's very good system on single cards, but as a reader does not know how heavy an additional setting is for the card, it's hard to compare two results. It stays as "some benefit".

    That's all for now, I just had to make clear to everybody I'm not interested in the maximum FPS...
     
  18. Toka

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    It must be a real pain in the bum testing Oblivion et al on 24" and 30" monitors at those settings all day :(

    Poor Timmy!

    pS: Yep I prefer the 'Bit Tech Method' ta.
     
  19. Tim S

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    Hi guys, just added a note to the bottom of the review as Foxconn got back to us regarding the high price and current poor value for money.

    :thumb:
     
  20. Hugo

    Hugo Ex-TrustedReviews Staff

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    Well considering there's alot of stock cards for that price around foxconn may be onto a winner, especially with the "higher numbers = better" crowd.

    I don't know how many times it has to be said, but a timedemo is never going to be a good indicator of actual game performance...<rolls eyes>
     
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