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Hardware Fractal Design Define XL R2 Review

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Meanmotion, 28 Mar 2013.

  1. Meanmotion

    Meanmotion bleh Moderator

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  2. Pookie

    Pookie So this is permanence, love's shattered pride.

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    My Only major gripe I have with my R4 is the rubbish feet that are just glued on and keep falling off! I see the XL has the same feet so (or so it appears) I guess that will be an issue.
     
  3. David

    David Take my advice — I’m not using it.

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    Meh. Attack of the clones.
     
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    Shirty Time travelling rogue Super Moderator

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    Looks like a P182 without the compartmentalised design :blah:
     
  5. Blarte

    Blarte Moderate Modder

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    I have one of these cases, two fans in and one out and a corsair cpu cooler.. additional x 2 120's in the roof. The temps are great and the case is almost silent you can hardly hear the GPU which is air cooled .I'd personally recommend it.
     
  6. SchizoFrog

    SchizoFrog New Member

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    What hit me first was just how nasty and dull inside the door looks. Did they completely forget to style that area? Not a fan of their Define series but the Arcs are nice.
     
  7. jinq-sea

    jinq-sea 'write that down in your copy book' Super Moderator

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    I like it. Minimalist, and just like my R4, which I'm a huge fan of!
     
  8. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    I think that's due to the sound deadening foam used.
     
  9. SchizoFrog

    SchizoFrog New Member

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    I didn't mean the back of the actual door, the front of the case, behind the door.
     
  10. Hustler

    Hustler Well-Known Member

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    Overclockers suddenly dropped the entire fractal range of cases because of build quality concerns and a dismal procedure for returns, both for trade and retail customers.

    They had quite a number of cases arrive from the factory with scratches, dents, poorly fitting panels and missing parts.

    Unusual for one of the largest online retailers in the UK to take such a drastic step, so I'm guessing there must be something to it, or it could just be an argument over money, who knows.

    I really would like the R4 case, but I am concerned about reports like this, do Fractal owners out there have any thoughts about it?
     
  11. Baz

    Baz I work for Corsair

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    Odd to hear reports of the dodgy feet; we've a number in the labs that have survived the worst an angry tech journo can throw at them.
     
  12. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    I have the Fractal Define Mini (which, I note, is now listed as "discontinued" on eBuyer) and I have no complaints: no dents, no scratches, build quality was good, all parts present and correct. Well, okay, I have *one* complaint: the nice cables provided for the front panel (audio, power button, power LED, 2x USB 2.0, 1x USB 3.0, reset button) are a bit stupid, 'cos the reset button cable is too short.

    Let me explain: all the cables are exactly the same length; trouble is, every single cable except the reset button cable all go out of a hole in the top-front of the case and to the top-mounted front panel. The reset cable, meanwhile, goes to a reset button about midway down the front of the case - a good six inches away from the rest of the front panel. As a result, the cable ends up being six inches shorter than the rest by the time it's inside the case - and about three inches too short to reach my motherboard. I had to ram it through the hole designed for a second front-facing intake fan as a temporary measure; if you want two front-facing fans, you'd have to extend the cable or drill a new hole for it. Stupid design.

    Aside from that, and the lack of hard drive activity light, no complaints.
     
  13. Dogbert666

    Dogbert666 *Fewer Staff Administrator

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    I have a Fractal Define R3. Obviously can't speak for the current generation case but I can echo what Gareth said in that I've had no complaints along the lines that have been suggested.
     
  14. bawjaws

    bawjaws Well-Known Member

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    My only issue with my Define R3 is the lack of HDD activity light, but I got round that by ripping a HDD LED out of my previous case and ghetto mounting it sticking out of the vents on the side of the front panel :D

    Other than that, the build quality of the R3 is super solid (apart from the cable routing grommets which are a little too prone to detaching from the case), and there were no dings, scratches or missing pieces on my case.
     
  15. Pookie

    Pookie So this is permanence, love's shattered pride.

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    It's just the rear ones for me. The front feet are either screwed or held with rivets. Another modding job to add to the list :D
     
  16. kingred

    kingred Surfacing sucks!

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    I have an R2. What brought me to fractal over the others was the simplicity (AND THE BITUMEN OH GOD YES). When I ruined the included fan controller I emailed fractal about what pots to use as I had cooked the one on the pcb. The technical director of fractal immediately fired an email back saying essentially "don't do it you bloody idiot ill send you a new one goddamnit".

    I believe as they are expanding production to fit increased demand for their products and their quality control engineer has probably been a new hire in the company, leading to quality issues (or the supplier trying to cheap out on their components). 4 years on My case is still fantastic, works silently, the bitumen is slowly falling off the roof of the case but that's to be expected.

    Give them a chance to sort things out, they really bend over backwards for customers.
     
  17. samkiller42

    samkiller42 For i AM Cheesecake!!

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    I've got an R3 in use as my Media Server, and when everything is switched off, the only way to know it's on, is the front LED, it's stupidly quiet, even when encoding a BD or something, full CPU power and it's still silent,and the temps are stupidly low. It's ideling now, but a Phenom 2 X6 1045T at stock is currently 13c. Perfect.

    Sam
     
  18. Christopher N. Lew

    Christopher N. Lew Folding in memory of my father

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    13C ~ you must be leaving your windows open too long, that's way below a comfortable temperature for watching/listening to media. I'd be highly suspicious of a figure like that, and since one of my Phenom X6 CPUs reports 7C in a perfectly comfortable room, I wonder if there is a problem across the whole range.

    I've got R3 cases and have no complaints about the feet or quality control. I used Fractal Design's USB 3 upgrade kit and found it excellent.
     
  19. Paradigm Shifter

    Paradigm Shifter de nihilo nihil fit

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    This must be a recent thing, because I've had a Define R4 since... October?... (somewhere around there) and it's fine. The build quality, if anything, is better than most other cases I've worked with recently. As much as I like my Silverstone TJ07, the R4 is far less troublesome to work with, although the Corsair 700D is head and shoulders above the R4... but that is largely due to the extra elbow-room to work with. ;)

    Can't you just plug the power LED cable into the HDD activity connector on the motherboard if it's that much of a concern?
     
  20. bawjaws

    bawjaws Well-Known Member

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    My main issue with using the power LED as HDD LED is that the power LED on my R3 is so ridiculously bright that the room would resemble a rave with blue strobe lighting! I don't think I could cope with that without suffering some sort of seizure :D
     
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