I was thinking bolting the rad itself to the windowsill, have it pointing at the window. Free cold air intake. Use a couple of Quick Disconnects on the case itself, so if ever I have to move my PC for cleaning: I shalln't have to drain the whole loop in order to be able to move it. The EK Supreme LT 360 kit looks like a good starting point, add in some more tubing and a bit more liquid, the AMD motherboard universal kit, about £300 in watercooling parts grand total.
What the one thats £144 on scan? That looks like a bloody good buy and sounds like a good idea, I'm using quick disconnects for my 1080 rad otherwise I don't think I'll ever be able to move my computer again Oh and LOL ;D
Haaha well it won't be me because my 920 is now in the post! There's "normal" air cooling, and there's "benching" air cooling - eg, a D14, Silver Arrow or TRUE Cu with two 6000rpm server fans feeding them cool air at a rate of 250 CFM. Water might have the performance edge (and it's just an edge), but it certainly doesn't have the flexibility. As for chipset cooling, the same applies - stock northbridge chipset sinks are just lumps of anodized aluminium with crappy TIM underneath them... put a Thermalright heatpipe sink on your northbridge with high airflow and you'll see temps similar to what you would with a waterblock on it. I've been benching with air for five years now and have never dreamed of touching water... IMO it's much better suited to 24/7 cooling, as Spreadie said.
gave it a quick run, I'm pretty happy to do well at any benchmark since my gpu died. The hardware info isn't recognizing my OC: 4.5Ghz, stock volts, air cooling. pretty good considering I haven't played with the RAM speeds or BCLK freq. at all.
Is every chip the same? Take 1156 I7 for example @ 4.0 compere to I7 920 @ 4.0 - I7 920 wins. Why? Same clock speed, same memory.
Different memory controller, different IPC (I think). Triple channel memory offers more bandwidth than dual channel.
No, the chips are not the same. Comparing 1156 (P55) to 1366 (X58) is comparing a midrange platform to a high end platform. X58 wins out because it has QPI and triple-channel memory (both affording higher memory bandwidth, ergo better memory performance) and all X58 CPUs have hyperthreading whereas only three of the P55 CPUs have it. So, an i5 750 at 4GHz will get trashed in Geekbench by an i7 920 @ 4GHz. Edit: ninjanoiz strikes again lol
The issue is that; around the sheer size of the Archon and both GPUs; I don't have room to fit a large heatsink for my Northbridge. There simply isn't the space. I don't want to have to downgrade my CPU cooling in order to try and keep the motherboard cool. I'd rather get a slight upgrade on both, and try something new, all at the same time.
Fair enough. Have you replaced the stock TIM under the northbridge? I do that with all motherboards which have notoriously high NB temps or which reputedly use poor TIM... in any case it's a good move, as long as the stock heatsink can be removed and replaced easily. I suspect AMD is different, because after years of benching Intel I've never had any reason to opt for better chipset or VRM cooling.
You explained it in more detail though What is this i7 750 you speak of? And I know all too well X58 destroys P55 in geekbench No amount of vcore or high speed memory will allow me to catch up. Clearly more upgrades are needed
Oh yeah pookey my latest score the ram was at 2133 not 1866 Incidently it looks like that will be my last score, my chip simply will not boot past 5GHz
Ooooops... corrected Hyperthreading is your arch nemesis... I ran the bench with HT off and got only 9429, compared to 11154 with HT on. But the score rockets with a higher uncore speed. Geekbench is definitely favours hyperthreading and high memory bandwidth more than raw CPU speed.
It's because the NB partially handles inter-core communication too (Because of HT). The memory controller might be in the processor, but it's still dramatically limited by the NB speeds. Sadly the NB does not like being OC'd. Hence the heat. The VRMs, on the flipside, are happy with outputting anything up to 1.7V before they seem to warm up to the point where i'd be concerned, so I'm not too worried about those.
Nearly bought the whole SB-E setup, this is with the i7 3960x (£820!!!!) and Asus formula and 16gb of 1866mhz RAM. I was going to whack it on the credit card and at the last minute i just couldnt hand over the card. Now im regretting it
I don't like you. I don't like you one bit. I was happy being 500MHz short of the fastest 2500K, now I need to go and pull out another 100.