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News Hard disk supply could take two years to recover

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by arcticstoat, 7 Nov 2011.

  1. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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    The price has gone up so people buying them are sheep? I'll delete all of my ripped movies before I buy a hard drive at today's prices but that doesn't mean anyone who is still willing to pay is somehow inferior.

    I love this mentality. You can't afford it so everyone else who can is a follower. You aren't the CEO of a big business so these highly successful people must surely be idiots. I'm sure all of your failings in life are the direct result of "the man" keeping you down.
     
  2. sitech71

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    You have missed the point by a mile.Did you read my first post?
    Its about not getting ripped off. As I said a pc retailer I know had over 50 of the segate xt500 in stock and now have the same 50 instock. But with a price of £279.99. Same stock no flooding in their w-house!
    If you accept everything in this world as it is you will never change things.We will just keeop gettign mugged off and taken for fools.
    By the way Iam the CEO! I just have a different outlook than most.
     
  3. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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    And? They now know that they can get more money for those same drives and raised the price because other retailers have been hit with shortages and now desperate customers will come to them willing to pay £279.99. Some people's needs justify the extreme costs. Those who aren't willing to pay those costs don't have to. Hard drives are a luxury item, people without the cash will live without them. Yeah, it sucks being in the group that isn't willing to pay. I'd really like to buy a pair of 2TB drives right now but can't justify it. But complaining about it doesn't suddenly make Newegg (my retailer of choice) bend over backwards and slash the prices.
     
  4. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    So when Mr. Apple, Mr. Acer, Mr. ASUS, Mr. Dell, Mr. HP, Mr. Toshiba, Mr. Sony or Mr. Toshiba comes to Mr. Samsung and ask for extra hard drives because Mr. Western Digital for some reason cannot deliver enough hard drives, Mr. Samsung will say "No! I need to sell to retail market. You and your pity million size orders are not important to me! Go away!". Then Mr. Scan comes and asks "Hey Mr. Samsung, i need to have our original 500 drive weekly order instead of the last delivery of 150 drives. Can you do that?". And Mr. Samsung says "Sure, no problem, just kicked out Mr. Big Computer Manufacturer out of my office, i don't care for their million size order, i want to sell it to you, small guys".

    This is how your logic works Another_level ?
     
  5. Another_level

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    I think Sloth has missed the point completely.

    Using Sloth's logic, he must think eating McDonalds Big Mac must be healthy because the company is big and successful.

    Thanks for your kind words Sitech and I share your outlook too.
     
  6. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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    Oh but of course that's how it should work! That's what's nice for me, and that's what matters! Anything that makes life difficult for me is greedy and evil and bad.

    Big Macs aren't healthy, they also taste bad (all that sauce and lettuce and tomato) and as such I don't eat them. However, I also don't go around calling people fools or sheep for eating them. They want to eat unhealthy food and line McDonald's pockets? Go for it. Have a blast! Likewise, retailers want to overprice hard drives and people still want to buy them? Their money, not mine.
     
  7. Another_level

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    Actually Mr Samsung would say he sold his hard drives business to Seagate. Better ask Seagate for drives.

    Jeez, you don't seem to know your industry very well, faugusztin.
     
  8. Sloth

    Sloth #yolo #swag

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  9. Another_level

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    I'm afraid I don't share your outlook. If you look at the bankers they have a herd mentality which caused havoc to the western economy.

    I've quoted your last point, Sloth, as I think people are not willing to pay inflated prices for hard drives and as Sitech has said Scan stocks of hard drives have remained static recently.

    BTW Sloth changing Mr Samsung to Mr Seagate in your last post has made you look foolish.
     
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  10. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    No, he changed it because you are grabbing on semantics and not the meaning of the post. Point is, you and me are the last in the line, the whole retail chain gets much less drives, period. Whatever you post will not change that, it also won't change retail pricing.

    But i guess you would rather have the "delivery time 4 to 8 months*" and original prices, so when someones drive fail, they won't have even the expensive option to replace it.

    *optimistic estimate.
     
  11. Another_level

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    Well I have SSD so happy to wait eternity until the hard drives prices drop. In the meantime I'm happy to give my personal opinion where I see fit.

    I think in 2012, Seagate will dominate the HDD market for at least two quarters possibly more while Western Digital struggles to regain its market share. There should be enough HDDs supplies to meet demand in q1 2012 and so prices should return to normal.

    Also, have Western Digital expanded their operations to Malaysia as part of their $1.2b investment to last five years? Manufacturing and R&D facilities were meant to be completed by 3rd quarter this year.

    History have shown when individuals stand up for their beliefs then change can happen.
     
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  12. Shielder

    Shielder Live long & prosper!

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    Did you miss this on El Reg?

    WD ceasing production for 6 months and Seagate having issues.

    Looks like my RAID array will have to wait for a good long while :(

    Like others have said, we, the great unwashed public, are at the bottom of the food chain when it comes to HDD supply. So any dregs that come through the channel will cost more. If your 1TB Spinpoint or SDD boot drive fails, are you just going to refuse to buy a hard drive and be without your computer/data until the price drops to what you think you should pay?

    No, I didn't think so.

    Andy
     
  13. Another_level

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    You can't really take that article as fact because some analyst gave speculative opinions to a journalist about the floods in Thailand affecting hard drives productions. Good food for thoughts but not facts I'm afraid.

    And in answer to your final question I've always stated that the desparates or complete idiots with more money than sense, perhaps both, would be happy to pay the current inflated prices for hard drives.
     
  14. Shielder

    Shielder Live long & prosper!

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    So what will you do if your SSD fails?

    Andy
     
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    I hate the way everyone feels they have the right to demand things like lower prices and more stuff. You are not owed anything. Its not like your being denied fresh water or other human rights. This whole self centered 'customer is king' way of thinking is deeply flawed because you are NOT special you are not importaint and certianly not king. You want a hard disk pay for one, dont want to pay then start your own hard disk factory and see how much money you save.
     
  16. littlepuppi

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    People have got too used to super cheap storage that they now see the previous prices as "the" price. Same will happen in memory markets - players will leave due to super tight margins - then the remaining players that have toughed it out will raise prices, expect Hitachi seagate and Western Digital to do the same, 2TB drive for £100 - is that really that bad?
     
  17. Another_level

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    Sorry guys, you might as well talk to me in a foreign language as I clearly don't follow Sheep's logic.

    Now guys, why don't you sing baa, baa black Sheep?
     
  18. thehippoz

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    wow I missed all this drama.. *gets popcorn and waits for sloth*

    I don't really care one way or the other.. if I need a drive, what are your gonna do.. have to buy one

    maybe fix it with spare parts at best.. wonder if this will start a market for used drives

    porn box drives maybe
     
  19. Fizzban

    Fizzban Man of Many Typos

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    Thankfully I don't need a new HD yet, but I was hoping to get one some time next year. I will watch prices carefully I feel. And OOOOO Drama. See I miss this when I take a break from bit. ;)
     
  20. mediapcAddict

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    Video and drive images

    An HD mediapc for television recording can quickly make a 2TB drive look small.
    ( read my user name and trust that I am speaking from experience )
     
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