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Hardware How to build a NAS box

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Sifter3000, 23 Jul 2010.

  1. Sifter3000

    Sifter3000 I used to be somebody

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  2. The_Beast

    The_Beast I like wood ಠ_ಠ

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    Very nice article, so far I only have DAS, but someday soon I'd like to build a NAS
     
  3. phuzz

    phuzz This is a title

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    I've got a FreeNAAS box, which is mainly built from the hardware of my old gaming rig, which is why it's running a watercooled Semperon, in an old DFI LANparty board, overkill is always fun :)

    Right now, FreeNAS is (imo) the best free software for building your own NAS, but it is limited by it's FreeBSD roots (drivers etc.).
    The original author of FreeNAS is currently working on a complete recode called Open Media Vault. Instead of BSD and custom scripts, it's being built on Debian Linux, which should mean much better hardware compatibility, and it should be a lot easier for end users to add plugins (eg, FreeNAS currently uses Fuups to stream to DNLA devices, which is pretty crap, OMV should allow any of the Linux streamers).
    The only downside is that currently ZFS won't be supported (license issues with Linux), but it should be possible to use BTFS soon.
    Hopefully OMV should have a first release sometime this year (there's only one developer at present).
     
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  4. crazyceo

    crazyceo New Member

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    Just finished reading the CustomPC benchtest and reviews on NAS boxes and then this pops up. Are you peeking over the office cubicle walls to see what the other guys are doing?
     
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    I'd have to have a bloody long neck :eeek:

    (since I live in Taiwan, and Anthony works in London!)
     
  6. scott_chegg

    scott_chegg Active Member

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    I've recently built a FreeNAS box and I love it.

    It's running on a Dual Core Atom D510MO board, 1 GB DDR2-800 and a couple of 500 GB sata's (from my bits stash). Booting from a USB stick. The case is one of these.

    The 2 drives are in the hot swap bays and the usb stick is hidden in the cd drive bay. Rather than go with RAID1 I've setup RSYNC to sync changed data from the primary sata to the secondary sata hourly. This protects you from a RAID failure or a file system corruption issue. Well done for pointing out out that RAID isn't acceptable for backup. An often overlooked fact!

    For true backup I've got a 500GB USB disk. When I plug in this drive FreeNAS detects it, mounts the volume, RSYNC all the changed data then unmount. Got this setup from the FreeNAS FAQ's which are a really good resource.

    All in I'm really pleased with it. The hardware runs cool and quiet. FreeNAS isn't overly difficult to setup and run. It's also running Torrents and the Itunes server component to serve the wifes laptop with tunes wirelessly and backup the laptop itself (RSYNC again!)

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    Inside pic isn't focused. Best I could do as my camera is knackered.
     
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  7. dispie

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    Very nice article, i just rebuild old gaming system to server to nas but its way to power unfriendly

    but this is a beter, optie
     
  8. Da_Rude_Baboon

    Da_Rude_Baboon What the?

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    Which case did you use Bindi? Thats always the stumbling block for me, finding a nice looking small case with plenty of HDD bays or 3x external drive bays that i can fit a removable rack into.
     
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    I was going to use the Array...

    In the end I used the desk.
     
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    Nice, I've got a similar box but build using the OpenFiler project rather than Freenas, being Linux it does have the better hardware support and a pretty similar feature set.
     
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    Omnituens New Member

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    Any chance we could see the power draw from standard to underclocked, just to see what difference it makes?
     
  12. Ljs

    Ljs Well-Known Member

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    Nice article, I shall be doing this soon so its nice to know I can come back and abuse this...
     
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    I don't have a meter here and I'm in a 110V country so the power drawn is respectfully more than 240V.
     
  14. livenoise

    livenoise Virgin Modstar

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    Nice article.. just as i'm putting together all the bits to make my own NAS box!...

    My setup: after much web browsing I went with a VIA EPIA SN (4 SATA ports and a CF slot) with 2Gb RAM and 2 1Tb WD Green HDD's (soon to be 4)... I found a nice, but expensive, case - the Chenbro ES34169 (http://www.chenbro.eu/corporatesite/products_detail.php?sku=159) which holds the whole lot in a small (& quiet) footprint. I run FreeNAS off of a Compact Flash card plugged straight into the mobo...
     
  15. faugusztin

    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    Actually, it is not that big problem getting a 8-port Atom box. True, i don't use FreeNAS or RAID at all (for backups, i have something else - i could if i would want, but i decided against RAID for this use case).

    Anyway, the setup :
    AT3IONT-I (http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=ZHofno9Kz03TkwXw ) - surprise suprise, 4 SATA ports and a PCI-E port which i used to put a :
    Adaptec 1430SA SATA RAID controller ( http://www.adaptec.com/en-US/products/Controllers/Hardware/sata/entry/AAR-1430SA/ ) in it. That means another 4 ports.
    The rest is standard - 1GB DDR3 RAM, Seasonic S12II-330 Bronze PSU, Fractal Design Define R2 case and of course the hard drives.

    http://a.imageshack.us/img140/8505/atom1024.jpg

    Such a small board in a Full ATX case :). On side note, i run all 3 Noiseblocker Multiframe fans at minimum, and it is enough to cool the whole box. Unused hard drives spin down after 1 hour of idle, the whole setup uses 38W with 1 running hard drive. For comparison, exactly the same setup with MSI 785G AM3 board and either Sempron 140 or undervolted X4 II 620 used 62W with 1 running hard drive.
     
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    faugusztin I *am* the guy with two left hands

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    PS: On the photo, the board has 2GB in it, but in meantime i removed 1GB because the memory usage never went over 150-300MB. Right now, with Arch Linux, Samba, SSH, NX server and JDownloader my memory usage is 162MB/882MB :).
     
  17. Parge

    Parge the worst Super Moderator

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    What a great article.

    I bought a Netgear ReadyNas but found it slow and unreliable and eventually sold it. This has totally inspired me to build another NAS.

    My aim is to try and do it for under £100 – minus the hard drives which I have already.

    I have an old Sempron 3000+ (socket 754 I think) – I could probably use that, along with the DDR400 RAM etc.

    Need a new mobo/case/psu etc though.
     
  18. koli

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    Would you happen to know if that card needs messing around with drivers or works straight out of the box with Ubuntu?
     
  19. emerge

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    I'm running an Intel D945GSEJT with Atom 270 1.6, 2gb sodim ddr2, 2 x 1,5tb samsung 5400rpm drives.
    It consumes about 15w, doesn't need an atx power supply (I'm using an LCD screen power supply), it's completely fanless.
    One hard drive spins 24/7 and has data and os (debian), the other one spins for 30min a day because of the automatic backup. If one drive dies i don't loose anything, and if i delete some files i don't loose anything.
    And by using Debian I also run apache, mysql, mrtg, squid transparent proxy, dhcp server, pppoe router, dns cacher and a lot of other useful things.

    Questions?
     
  20. wuyanxu

    wuyanxu still wants Homeworld 3

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    have to agree, very nicely timed article. i was considering to buy the Synology DS210J due to it's been recommended by Anthony. but wishing i could have more flexibility and more control.

    got any cheaper small case to recommend? a brand new build for less than £250 would be nice, using the Asus AT3IONT-I (£150) mentioned earlier for its 4 SATA ports, a good PSU (£80) and a nice case. (<£70)
     
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