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Discussion in 'Serious' started by Pete J, 21 Jan 2020.

  1. Nexxo

    Nexxo Stopped treating this country as if it was his own

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    Pre-Victorian, even. The track between London and Birmingham was opened in 1838, for the coronation of Queen Victoria. :eeek:
     
  2. lilgoth89

    lilgoth89 Captin Calliope

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    Why hasnt the Goverment got people like this guy in charge of the PR around HS2 ?
    ive got more information in this 30 mins than the dozen or so public meetings ive attended, news articles and the HS2 leaflet i got not too long ago

    i feel he actually puts forward some good points, not full enough to fully sway me on HS2, i still feel there are better ways to achieve what he proposes... but he has some good points
     
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  3. loftie

    loftie Well-Known Member

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    Good video, thanks for sharing!
     
  4. Nexxo

    Nexxo Stopped treating this country as if it was his own

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    The UK government does not currently maintain a competency-based recruitment policy.
     
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  5. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    They also work on the principle of policy-based evidence rather than evidence-based policy
     
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  6. Pete J

    Pete J RIP Teelzebub

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    Whelp, it's a thing now. The video posted above has made me less opposed to it.
     
  7. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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  8. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Well-Known Member

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    Built by China or built properly. I'm sure Cummings is negotiating his bonus with President Xi's aide as we speak.
     
  9. Anfield

    Anfield Well-Known Member

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    Just no, this ain't facebook.
     
  10. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Well-Known Member

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    But but but but :(

    Drat.
     
  11. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Built by China, the lowest bidder.
    or
    Built by Britain, so still built by the lowest bidder, just at a ludicrously inflated price.

    'Built properly' was never an option.
     
  12. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Came across this on reddit and it made me chuckle...
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    So that's his plan for HS2. :)
     
  13. lilgoth89

    lilgoth89 Captin Calliope

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    Needs a 'made in China' Sticker and it will be good to go
     
  14. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    China that has got alot of HSR and so have experience but it sounds like some future HSR is being put on hold due to much of it not even making enough to pay the interest on the debt.

    And that's with fares competitive with bus and air travel.

    I guess we may not have the same money issues here, i mean it won't be competitive in the slightest - passengers will be squeezed dry.
     
  15. Anfield

    Anfield Well-Known Member

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    And when the franchise inevitably goes bust as a result of passengers not being able to afford tickets then the tax payer gets to pick up the tab a 2nd time, hooray for the demented logic on which trains operate here:p

    All that being said, China has a point about building it quickly (regardless of who actually builds it):
    If it is done by say 2030 instead of 2040 that is a whole decade worth of inflation that can be saved.
     
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  16. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Very true.

    Like I say, they have experience. By then there may not be any of those pesky EU H&S laws either so we really can go full on Victorian :rollingeyes::lol:
     
  17. Fingers66

    Fingers66 Kiwi in London

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    It does make me wonder what "conditions" the Chinese would apply to the building of it, they have form in a lot of countries around the world with their infrastructure "investments" puting those countries into serious debt to the Chinese government which ultimately leads to compromises being made on other deals i.e. access to markets, trade etc.
     
  18. Anfield

    Anfield Well-Known Member

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    The UK ain't quite in the same position as Ethiopia where borrowing from China is the only option and the train line would never get built otherwise.

    However, if it prompts us to tell Trump to shove his trade war up where the sun doesn't shine... China will certainly not complain.
     
  19. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Lunatic on the Grass.

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    As far as dealing with Trump is concerned, Boris has already painted his nose brown to get the trade talks underway. I'll leave you to think about what he painted with...
     
  20. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    The only glimmer of hope is Trump slamming the phone down on him about Huawei.

    Not sure if Trump had or hadn't been told we'd been using and monitoring them for 15 years already.
     

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