1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.

Hardware Linux CLI 101

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by CardJoe, 6 Sep 2007.

  1. CardJoe

    CardJoe Freelance Journalist

    Joined:
    3 Apr 2007
    Posts:
    11,343
    Likes Received:
    292
    Last edited by a moderator: 6 Sep 2007
  2. naokaji

    naokaji whatever

    Joined:
    8 Dec 2006
    Posts:
    1,879
    Likes Received:
    10
    simply great article... should help alot for those that want to use linux but arent "experts" yet
     
  3. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg New Member

    Joined:
    26 May 2005
    Posts:
    5,841
    Likes Received:
    80
    Good article, where was it a year or two ago when i was trying to learn this stuff :D
     
  4. <A88>

    <A88> Trust the Computer

    Joined:
    10 Jan 2004
    Posts:
    5,441
    Likes Received:
    25
    Excellent article- really welcomed!

    <A88>
     
  5. riggs

    riggs ^_^

    Joined:
    22 Jul 2002
    Posts:
    1,724
    Likes Received:
    3
    Again, another great little Linux article...thanks!

    A question for you Glider; if you had to recommend just one Linux reference book, which would it be?
     
  6. revlob

    revlob New Member

    Joined:
    4 Sep 2005
    Posts:
    58
    Likes Received:
    0
    Ooh! I've been using top for years, but hadn't heard of htop, which looks much nicer. Cheers for that.
     
  7. Woodstock

    Woodstock So Say We All

    Joined:
    10 Sep 2006
    Posts:
    1,783
    Likes Received:
    2
    wow, a cli guide thats made for those who dont know anything lol, why couldnt i have found that when i needed it more lol (not that i didnt find it useful). im hoping youve got some more linux articles planned.
     
  8. djDEATH

    djDEATH Habari gani?

    Joined:
    23 Mar 2006
    Posts:
    434
    Likes Received:
    5
    i think this is a good article, as someone who doesn't need this help, i understood it thoroughly, however, for people who genuinely want to get stuck into this stuff, it kinda throws you in at the deep end, some friends i emailed this link to who genuinely do want ot learn some bash and basic unix/linux admin, emailed back asking what VMware is and what on earth we need that for to ssh into a linux box.

    i found it very intuiive, but the style of writing is very reminiscent of linux geeks, assuming a lot of basic PC knowledge. Fair enough for a site like this i guess, but it will have a lto of people stumped at stage one i think.

    do you really need to install VMware in order to learn bash? an unneccesary level of complication for an otherwise plain and simple guide.
     
  9. DeX

    DeX Mube Codder

    Joined:
    22 Jul 2002
    Posts:
    4,152
    Likes Received:
    3
    Great article but I think there's a few things you should have mentioned:

    1) If you want the power of bash on windows there's Cygwin
    2) If you need help with most commands there's usually an option called --help (I think it would be useful to mention this as well as the man command at the very start)
    3) Did you even mention command pipes? That's something that should be near the beginning too.
    4) Grep is command I've found invaluable. You don't need to use regular expressions to use it if you don't want to but that power is always there if you need it.
    5) And perhaps a mention of the find command. Windows is useless for searching for files and I always get confused by find so that would be useful
    6) Command aliases can be very useful. For example I have one for ls which makes it default to ls -alrt

    Sorry, I know you couldn't possibly cover everything (this list turned out longer than I expected). As I said, it's a great article!
     
  10. Da Dego

    Da Dego Brett Thomas

    Joined:
    17 Aug 2004
    Posts:
    3,913
    Likes Received:
    1
    hey guys, I just had to put a comment in here, mostly to djDeath and DeX. :)

    First of all, thanks for the great comments, I'm glad to know that our linux articles are hitting a very often-missed target. Which leads me to -

    As DeX said, you can't have EVERYTHING in here - or else it becomes more than just 101. Remember, DeX, the purpose of this first article is to familiarise yourself with how to move around, assuming you don't even know what "cd" means. Pipes, grep and aliases are all a bit out of the scope. Of course, that's what a CLI 102, 201, etc. are for... ;) So don't worry, we'll get there.

    For DJ Death's comment, that was one reason LiveCD was mentioned in the very beginning. You can boot up using nothing but the Ubuntu guide, though VMWare Server makes for a little nicer (and I'd say cleaner) approach. That being said, you're right - an intro on how to install VMWare Server would not have gone amiss, though the basic steps are present. :)
     
  11. 1e8o

    1e8o New Member

    Joined:
    13 Oct 2005
    Posts:
    272
    Likes Received:
    0
    This belongs in the software tab right?
     
  12. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

    Joined:
    12 Mar 2001
    Posts:
    8,180
    Likes Received:
    54
    If only we had one...
     
  13. Guest-16

    Guest-16 Guest

    Damn it. I should have checked and this would probably have been better in bits... or not?! Nm.
     
  14. DougEdey

    DougEdey I pwn all your storage

    Joined:
    5 Jul 2005
    Posts:
    13,933
    Likes Received:
    33
    Doesn't "mv" stand for "move" which makes more sense then "copy and delete the original"?
     
  15. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg New Member

    Joined:
    26 May 2005
    Posts:
    5,841
    Likes Received:
    80
    True, but thats what it does. Some people find that easier to visualise.
     
  16. shaq

    shaq New Member

    Joined:
    7 Sep 2006
    Posts:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Great article Glider!

    I use Nautilus on my Ubuntu installation occasionally, but when I need to some serious file manipulation, I bring out ksh!

    And then when things get really serious, that's when I fire up PERL...

    Can we get a PERL 101?... :)
     
  17. Jamie

    Jamie ex-Bit-Tech code junkie

    Joined:
    12 Mar 2001
    Posts:
    8,180
    Likes Received:
    54
    Then Ruby, Python, Java, C?
     
  18. Bluephoenix

    Bluephoenix Spoon? What spoon?

    Joined:
    3 Dec 2006
    Posts:
    968
    Likes Received:
    1
    and what about PHP? (lol, what can I say, it rhymes :cooldude:)

    excellent article though, now maybeI'll be able to educate my friend on how to use the media server rather than always being at a loss and asking me. :wallbash:
     
  19. shaq

    shaq New Member

    Joined:
    7 Sep 2006
    Posts:
    15
    Likes Received:
    0
    Sorry I asked! :blush:

    reason I mentioned it is that I've always found PERL really easy to use for more complex file manipulations...

    It's also really easy to pick up.


    Now Python I've heard good things about... I'm hoping to pick it up soon, so yes, a Python tutorial would be handy... :D
     
  20. Glider

    Glider /dev/null

    Joined:
    2 Aug 2005
    Posts:
    4,173
    Likes Received:
    21
    A general Linux book, hmm, hard... My first tought (don't laugh) is Google... Linux' strength is it's great online documentation, certainly for a distro like Gentoo... If it isn't in the handbook or the wiki, you have some exotic stuff going on.

    mv stands for move, but it does a copy & delete...

    PHP is about one of the nicest languages I've learned...

    EDIT: @DeX, piping, grepping, sed, ... all usefull, all easy, but all require that you understand the basics first, basics being tree structure and the likes... The goal of this guide was a bare introduction, and I do mean bare ;)
     
    Last edited: 6 Sep 2007
Tags: Add Tags

Share This Page