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Cooling Noobie Water Boy!

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by richman, 7 Jan 2004.

  1. richman

    richman What's a Dremel?

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    Hi all, iam thinking of going down the water cooling route on my new case (chieftek dragon) :D and was woundering if any of you could list all the things i would need and where i could get them (UK) i would be very greatful for this information.
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    Richman
     
  2. kiljoi

    kiljoi I *am* a computer king.

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  3. richman

    richman What's a Dremel?

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    maybe someone can reccomend a kit for me :rock:
    cheers
    richman
     
  4. Gedron

    Gedron What's a Dremel?

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  5. richman

    richman What's a Dremel?

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    thanx for that, i heave read it and loking for more information on watercooling but prob will use this kit. :rock:
    Cheers
    Richman
     
  6. orb

    orb satisfying.

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    OO, that review is good, £203 for all the stuff you need, i might need to save

    will it work in a Chieftec Matrix?
     
  7. richman

    richman What's a Dremel?

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    will it work in a chieftek dragon with a abit nf7-s
    cheers
    richman
     
  8. mushky

    mushky gimme snails

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    You could make it work
     
  9. kiljoi

    kiljoi I *am* a computer king.

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    that's what modders do, after all...
    :dremel:
     
  10. M_D_K

    M_D_K Minimodder

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    Ok which route do you want to go down.

    Silence and piece of mind
    Or
    Power and extreme clocking

    Silence and piece of mind
    The water chill kit is a good place to start its easy to set up and loads of ppl are getting on well with them. As there are many reviews available you'll have no trouble setting up and tweaking the kit.

    Power and extreme clocking
    Now if you want to build yourself a beast then theres nothing that ses power then some good old 1/2" tubing alround and a custom built kit from random parts puttogether to make a very good system.

    A basic watercooling kit consists of
    Res [unles you opt for a closed loop in which case not needed]
    Pump
    CPU block
    Tubing
    Rad + Fan

    If you do it yourself you tend to alwasy come up with better results then a kit unless you completly screw it up.

    What you wanna look for these days is :

    CPU block - Danger Den RBX_Good little current perforumer, good for everyone to use and will give good results.
    D-tek white water_More towards the extreme althoughs ome ppl say that the RBX performs better, tiss a good block and very stable been used alot over the years ppl rate it as a very good piece of kit.
    Little Rivers Cascade - This is the current dady of blocks, outperforms everything ont he market. Its the extreme end of the spectrum :D

    Pumps - Your looking at most eheim 1048 > 1250, or L20/30 there all good in the end will give good flow at good pressure.

    Radiater - You can get a rad from a single 80, to double 80s too 16x120s. but comenly ppl use either a single 120mm rad or a double or tripple these give the best results and tend to fit inside your case. Black Ice and thermochill are very good rads to go for. You could always get a care heatcore and use that do it the modders way :thumb:

    Reservior - There are many available ont he market the more user friendly id say are the bay reses. These take up either single or double 5.25/3.5" bays and give a very good solution for carring your water :D

    Additives - if your starting out and don't want to experiment with additives Water Wetter is simple to use and gives great results and will stop all sorts of interesting things happening to your water and your blocks, there are many threads available that discuss additives if you care to do a bit of searching around.

    additions to the loop can be added like GPU, HDD, NB blocks etc... and even PSUs although little pricy interesting idea.

    Links
    Coolercase - UK distributer of Danger Den products. Large range of watercooling and computer components, quick service and great staff e-mail Coolmiester if you have queries or email me if you wish :thumb:


    D-TEK - Retailers of the White Water block.

    Over-Clock - WIde range of watercooling porducts. Also sell heatcores as well as some good rads

    Wizard Designs - This is more of the 3/8" flavour, great selection of products and the msot friendly of staff. Look around on the boards for PUG.

    Hope thats helped

    Good luck
     
  11. Risky

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    You could also look at Swifttech's range, which looks pretty good to me. www.swiftnets.com
     
  12. orb

    orb satisfying.

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    How much would it cost for a nice water cooling system? ie. the cheapest?
     
  13. richman

    richman What's a Dremel?

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    i have seen a watercoling kit @ dabs for £60 i was like OMG this must be the wost kit on the market, as my pholosophy to kit is "you get what you pay for" so a cheap kit would under perform or break after 5mins of insterlation :hehe: where as if u save a bit then splash out on a mean kit you would get some nice temps and also you would have a good bit of kit that is going to last you.
    Richman
     
  14. richman

    richman What's a Dremel?

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    forgot to add i have been doing some research aswell and have come up with the following kit, if anyone is intrested :worried:
    Reservoiur - Typhoon Bay Res £25.99 www.coolercases.co.uk/wc_reservoiurs.htm

    Pump - Eheim 1048 Pump £36.99 http://www.coolercases.co.uk/wc_pumps.htm

    Radiator - ThermoChill 80.1 £49.99.?? http://www.coolercases.co.uk/wc_radiators.htm

    Radiator Fan - 80mm Sunon Fan £6.99 http://www.coolercases.co.uk/fans_standard.htm

    Additives - Water Wetter 50ml - £4.99 http://www.coolercases.co.uk/wc_additives.htm

    Blocks - RBX P4 478 £45.99 http://www.coolercases.co.uk/water_blocks.htm

    Hose - 12mmX3mm Wall £1.59p Per Meter http://www.coolercases.co.uk/wc_hose.htm

    Iam not 100% sure on hoses and clamps so i still need a bit of advice on them if someone would like to explain which i should use i was thinking of going 1/2"
    Cheers
    Richman
     
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  15. M_D_K

    M_D_K Minimodder

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    that setup looks good to me, might want to consider the RBX over the Maze 4 as it has more potential :p.
     
  16. HQ08-Modder

    HQ08-Modder What's a Dremel?

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    Get a Cascade or a SIlverprop SE, The SE is a shiny bugger.

    BTW: These are Aussie blocks so AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI!!!
     
  17. realhorrorshow

    realhorrorshow What's a Dremel?

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    OK I'm a water Noob too. What is the deal with the 3 barbs on the RBX how does it connect up? It's this that makes me think i might go for a maze4 - just simplicity for a first timer..
     
  18. richman

    richman What's a Dremel?

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    Hiya,
    M D K considering your advice i have changed the block for the RBX P4 478 :rock: it is only £5 more and as you said it has more potential :D , also wat is the deal with the 3 connectors on that block what are they for? :eyebrow:

    Edit: Found Some Hose

    Cheers
    Richman
     
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  19. richman

    richman What's a Dremel?

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    Can anyone help?
    Cheers
    Richman
     
  20. Darv

    Darv Bling!!

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    Well on a Maze 4 the water goes in one side and coems out the other. With an RBX the idea is that water is sprayed directly onto the area of the CPU die. This means the water will be coldest when it hits the hottest part of the block. The two barbs either side are to ensure that the water spread evenly across the rest of the block. From there the water can be then joined back together by using a Y adapter or can be seperated to other sections like NB and GPU.
     
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