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News Quake Wars to have in-game ads

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Da Dego, 21 Jun 2007.

  1. Wez Weasel

    Wez Weasel New Member

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    THANK YOU! (gives you a chocolate chip cookie and a gold star Cheesecake)

    You hit the nail right on the head. Thats the point I am trying to drive into some people..
    When ever a company says something along the lines of "Its for the consumer" its a shark smile....
     
  2. ElZog

    ElZog Defeater of Satan's Transformo Sofa

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    I actually don't remember seeing any adverts in BF2142, just completely blanked them.

    Also the server doesn't need to ID you to track how long an ad is being shown on someone's monitor, just count up cumulative seconds with no need for direct identification.

    Hopefully it will be a similar situation to planetside where you can easily remove them.
     
  3. Hamish

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    persistant stats across all servers, requires infrastructure supported and maintained by SD

    as for support on old games, maybe games are more expensive to make now? maybe they require more time and more expertise to support/patch/improve/update/whatever due to being far more complex?

    im going to say it again, SD are not EA
    much much much more faith in SD that they're a) telling the truth b) going to make a good game and c) not **** ;)

    would i prefer no ads? yes of course
    are properly done ads going to stop me buying QW? no, not at all
     
  4. Wez Weasel

    Wez Weasel New Member

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    I will give you that, if there is an option to turn in game ads OFF, and its not a separate install program, then thats fine. As long as you give me the option to turn them off, and as for BF2142, it wanted to install a SEPARATE program to allow for the ads to be shown, yet no where on the box did it say that you had to or you couldn't play the game. So, when someone would open the package, and refuse to allow spyware to be installed on the system, they had a game they could not play, AND most stores will not allow you to fully return a opened game. And I know some people have found a way to turn off the ad server in BF2142 as well by blocking a certain IP range, so..I'm not sure whats going on with it now a days.
     
  5. Hugo.B

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    [shocked]Aren't you going to say British?[/shocked]


    H.B.
     
  6. ElZog

    ElZog Defeater of Satan's Transformo Sofa

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    That's pretty much the solution we used for planetside, the ads were sent via internet to allow for each country to have live updates with appropriate ads, so we just blocked the incoming ad stuff.

    Even though I don't notice ads in games often, I hope there is an opt out option or something, but i'm not gonna hold off getting the game for one.
     
  7. Spaceraver

    Spaceraver Ultralurker

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    And just how do you kill the IGA?? Or blank them.. *googles for a how-to* If it "looks" like we look at them then the company is none the wiser. If not. Oh, well.. Dont give two turds about it. Real century time games or said in another way. Games that take place in our time and reflects the real world can have all the ads they want if it looks and feels part of that game. Take Rally or F1 racing games. That is a genre that should have real ads by real companies in them. Or some games that take place less than 60 years ago.. As long as the ads are matched to the era. Think the Coke commercial or Pirelli 60 years ago. If the games is set at that time have the ad from that time.. Just the name of the company will do.
     
  8. pendragon

    pendragon I pickle they

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    I'd think that cost would have been historically offset by the increase in people actually buying video games over the years.. so for instance, as the 80's progressed and more and more people started playing video games, yet game technology was steadily improving. Not sure how that would be different in this case.
     
  9. C-Sniper

    C-Sniper Stop Trolling this space Ądmins!

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    hell i don really care just as long as they don't take up an entire building. but wait! weren't the buildings able to be destroyed so why not we just destroy the ads? Im thinking the rail howitzer.
     
  10. Solidus

    Solidus Superhuman

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    whens the game being released?
    anyone? :eek:
     
  11. completemadness

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    Definitely 2 of them most spot on posts here

    Generals has unified stats, i think renegade and RA2 do as well, yet none of them have ad's
    In fact, there are usually a community willing to support the game when it becomes less popular (and as it becomes less popular, the demands on the server is less so its much more affordable for a small group to maintain it)

    In game ad's are a load of tosh, if you want to give us in game ad's, lower the price, if you want to leave it ad free, the current price structure is right
    They need to learn they cant have their cake and eat it

    I know there was a big uproar about BF2142, but most people who really cared were able to block the ad's anyway, so EA didn't get anything out of including them (well unless they still got paid cos they couldn't work out that they were being blocked)
    I see the same thing happening here, plus if your going to use in game ad's, what about the people actually hosting the servers, you know, the ones actually forking out a significant amount of money
     
  12. mattthegamer463

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    I like some in-game ads. That Oakley chick in GRAW 2 MP demo is all too willing to help me practice with my grenade launcher or M99 rifle.
     
  13. David_Fitzy

    David_Fitzy I modded a keyboard once....

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    Toyota camry ads seem to be everywhere at the moment so using that as an example how do you advertise a camry while I'm playing super-future-game-3000 and flying my advanced space fighter or fantasy-medeival-past-game fighting the orc horde. I reckon advertisers will try a one size fits all as more games adopt adverts, I don't think that advertisers are going to bothered enough to create ads for specific game genres, examples...
    • The toyota camry space cruiser with a 30% more efficient hover drive (Eutopic far futures).
    • The toyota camry space tank with a 1 year armorment garantee (excluding RPG fire) (Dystopic far Futures)
    • The Toyota camry Cart with adjustable horse rails (For medeival scenarios) - I don't see advertisers wanting to go backwards like that.
    • The Toyota camry with 20% more efficient fuel cell (not-too-distant future)
    • The Toyota Camry now with wireless AM radio (for not-too-distant past) again i don't see advertisers wanting to do that.
    • Toyota Camry (Normal Ad for present day)
    • Probably many more....
    that's a lot of work and of course some games will have to be accomodated for say the advert says "Camry with 50% faster sheild regeneration" but the science in the game doesn't have sheilding or the entire game's world uses Credits but the adverts have £ or $ signs
     
  14. boiled_elephant

    boiled_elephant Merom Celeron 4 lyfe

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    I don't think blanking adverts should be something we have to learn to do.
    I don't mind it in games if it's in the background, obscure-like. Ideally, if the ads are meant to contribute to the ingame atmosphere, I reckon they should be fictional ones. I like that.

    Adverts you can't help seeing are the ones that bother me.

    (On a tangent: on the Lord of War DVD, there's a 30+ second Coke ad that you physically CANNOT skip. You can skip the legal stuff, the trailers, the warnings and the prelude Amnesty Int. thingy, but you CAN'T SKIP THE DAMN COKE ADVERT. That got on my tits. Felt too much like 1984.)
     
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    Anyone got any screenies or is there a disclosure agreement on the beta?
     
  16. Tokukachi

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    The ads in BF2142 are only generic intel ones.

    I'm a little annoyed that I had to pay £32.99 for the game and then get ads, and it has probably the worst support of any game I've played in the last 5 years :(

    Though it is EA mind, and they are money grabbing b*stards...
     
  17. Guest-23315

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    loads of recent Need For Speed titles have had in game advertiseing, including Burger King and Cingular.

    I'm not too fussed as long as its not to obvious.
     
  18. Paradigm Shifter

    Paradigm Shifter de nihilo nihil fit

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    True.

    But this advertising, I think, did not talk back to a master server...

    If you're against IGA, don't buy the game. Vote with your wallet; it's that simple.
     
  19. completemadness

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    that's all well and good, but if enough company's start using ad's, its going to be pretty hard to play a game without an ad, or u just cant play games
    And even then, loads of normal users probably don't know/care, and their the ones who contribute the most money to games
     
  20. Neogumbercules

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    Anyone else in here absolutely DISGUSTED by the advertising in Rainbow Six Vegas? Now I know that in Vegas you're going to be bombarded with flashing lights and billboards. I don't have a problem with that.

    Here's how R6: Vegas did it:

    Every single vehicle in the game is a dodge. Every car on the street, every car on display in the casinos, every car on a billboard and every car on every arcade machine was a dodge calibur racing game or some crap.

    Every billboard in the game is for Axe body spray. One level actually starts off by fading in the scene which has you in a helicopter staring at 3 gigantic Axe body spray billboards.

    I was completely disgusted, and couldn't even finish the game even though I DOWNLOADED it. I had to uninstall it and remove it completely from my computer.

    Maybe if all those adverts weren't in it in that fashion I would have bought the game, too...
     
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