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Hardware SandForce SSD Group Test

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Sifter3000, 25 Jun 2010.

  1. Makaveli

    Makaveli What's a Dremel?

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    Another update. The 9.0.14 intel drives does support TRIM. Just not when you have SSD in RAID, but a system with SSD + HD RAID works. You should use them on the next round up.
     
  2. pimonserry

    pimonserry sounds like a party.

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    Basically, Intel still make the best SSDs, amirite?

    (For a standard/home user, not continually writing - eg not server)
     
  3. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    Please add an Print option please (not per page print) keep the ads in as well if you wish

    hopefuly google chrome auto goes to the next page that i am about to try
     
  4. Burdman27911

    Burdman27911 What's a Dremel?

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    I am a mechanical engineer, so I do a lot of analysis that need decent hard drive speeds and I also do some HD video editing and 3DS Max rendering for the company (all of which need good read speeds).

    So I'm not your typical tech user, but I get so frustrated when my simulations start to slow way down because it's either paging to the HDD or just writing a ton of data.
     
  5. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    for any one els who is reading this review Any program under windows 7 or command (like full format that can be done from the DVD it self no need to use HDDerase) Triggers the TRIM command the Recycle Bin to trigger the TRIM command as is overly stated so many times is in no way the Only way that the TRIM command happens

    Any program the Permanently deletes an file will result in TRIM been sent the to disk as the command works at the File system level (NTFS) and passes it down to the driver in turn sends it to the SSD (if the Driver and SSD supports it and the SSD is Not in RAID)

    and to add to that is System restore is still enabled and the Recycle bin is been emptied is most likely cases it get sent to an restore point shadow for undoing later on (depending how long the file has been there)

    why are the drives been put into an filled state any way (from the test setup page) as the test system is going to be TRIM supported system any way why put the SSDs into an filled state thats not going to happen even under heavy use due to windows 7 sending the TRIM command, the only reason i could think of putting them into an filled state is if you Had 2 Test systems so you can compare the results of both one with Trim support and one with none
     
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  6. ulysses Cazuquel

    ulysses Cazuquel Sex, Casemod & Rock'N Roll!!!

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    l3v1ck Fueling the world, one oil well at a time.

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    So which should we buy, Indilinx or Sandforce?
    It seems there are pros and cons for both.

    And when are Indilinx going to release a new controller? The current one has been out for ages now.
     
  8. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    Indilinx is proven , i think Sandforce has small chance of random death think they fixed it in the new firmware

    you not notice the speed diferance under norm use if you moved form an HDD that it (even if you moved to it from Indilinx to Sandforce unlikely to see any difference unless your doing 10k IOPs normally)
     
  9. wyx087

    wyx087 Homeworld 3 is happening!!

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    why isn't there a single fast solution... Sandforce looks like a HDD duplicate attempt more than a SSD god.
     
  10. John_T

    John_T Minimodder

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    Thanks Zombie & Kamikaze-X.

    After reading that article on 'theregister', I think I'm more inclined to wait until the larger drives drop into my more acceptable price range. If I'm going to pay a massive premium in terms of £ per GB, I want to know that I'm going to get massive performance increases, not just hope for them. (The stuff about parallelism across the chips, the way it's explained, I can't see why it wouldn't hold true for every drive manufacturer).

    Saving maybe £100-odd off the headline price of a larger drive, but potentially getting hamstrung performance, it has to be a false economy. I'll stick with my F3 for now - it's the fastest thing I've ever known so I guess it'll do me a while yet...
     
  11. John_T

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    By the way, loved that youtube vid of 24 SSD's in RAID - sheer mentalness!
     
  12. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    still you would of been better off just buying one SSD for the size as that would support TRIM, where yours does not, and you did not get much more speed any way (IOPS is whats makes SSD's fast more IOPS are only needed if your doing Server loads or lots of reads and i mean lots)
     
  13. frojoe

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    Claiming an SSD is not performance related is just wrong. Sure a new graphics card will help more with gaming, or a new processor will help more with encoding video, but nothing will improve the performance of everyday tasks on the computer, across the board, like an SSD. From booting up in far less time, to being instantly ready to work after logging in, to opening programs without waiting, an SSD is perhaps the best money you could spend to improve all around performance. An upgrade to an SSD is certainly the most noticeable upgrade you could make. I suggest reading the page Why you absolutely need an SSD from Anand tech, as I would venture he knows more about them then most people on the planet.

    Personally I just installed a Intel x25-m 160 a week ago, and am loving it. Glad to see it is still holding its own against the new drives
     
  14. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    its like having an new pc using an ssd, even if you cloned your currant boot HDD to an SSD the mark improvements are noticeable right away before you do any benchmarks

    but SSD to SSD your talking 1 second between them all Raiding has the same affect as well no marked improvement in speed unless your doing lots of reads (apart from First gen samsung SSDs and the crappy JMicron based SSDs that are in fact worse in some cases then an hdd if any Writes happened)

    i went form an HDD to an Corsair S128 as an try out (considering the S128 is slower at data rate speeds its IOPS was far faster then an hdd) and that work out grate for the most part just it suffered an little due to no TRIM support so Write access time when up an bit, whent to an M225 256gb ssd (before prices went up an extra £100) and that is just so fast every thing just happens right away now Read or Write
     
  15. Fire Strike

    Fire Strike What's a Dremel?

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    I know this may sound dumb but which one came out on top as i'm looking to get a ssd.
     
  16. Baz

    Baz I work for Corsair

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    Hi all. Might not still be on the front page (I've been sunning myself on foreign shores) but i'm back now to answer questions. Regarding proper SSD buying advice: I'll be doing a special SSD buyers guide in the coming weeks.
     
  17. John_T

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    Nice one Baz - look forward to seeing that guide.

    (I'll look forward to it even more if it has various size drives on test...) :)
     
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