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The "Why did I get negative rep?" thread

Discussion in 'Feedback & Suggestions' started by 500mph, 14 Oct 2009.

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  1. 500mph

    500mph The Right man in the Wrong place

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    In reference to my post here: Click, I was wondering why I got negative reputation. I did not mean it in a negative way, and I even got +rep saying " ha ha".
    Really, I was just wishing that the person who left the negative rep left feedback on it.

    Also, any other members with a problem may come here.
     
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  2. stonedsurd

    stonedsurd Is a cackling Yuletide Belgian

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    Some mod neg repped you by mistake?
    AFAIK, only mods can neg rep.
     
  3. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    the selection of moderators here is keen on small talk.
    They don't like:
    -precision, explained views and opinions
    -they do not speak foreign languages and think it's a crime if somebody else does
    -don't moderate important threads in a way to put them in one basket, therefore you have 8 threads at the same time asking about advice on the same type of build (the hardware section is an unseen jungle, as a result; impossible to find anything in there (even if you know where it is) and you must always start a new thread asking if somebody remembers or is willing to repeat)

    Anyway; what salvages the situation are:
    - few really great members here, that are well informed and willing to share (I just got helped with a mechanical keyboard with a link to a review I self could not find in any way)
    -some from the Bit-tech staff (giving opinions or their thought)
     
  4. M7ck

    M7ck Ⓜod Ⓜaster

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    I dont have any negatives but i do have a grey one with no text???? I dont really understand how the points system works either, I have been repped in a post and recieved 5 or 6 points for it then repped in others and only recieved 1 point.
     
  5. capnPedro

    capnPedro Hacker. Maker. Engineer.

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    Citation needed on this one, definitely.

    You were repped by a new member, so your points did not increase. No text means they didn't leave a comment.

    I too would like to know what determines how much your score is increased by, though.
     
  6. stonedsurd

    stonedsurd Is a cackling Yuletide Belgian

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    VadimWolf - that's the vb rep system. The more rep you have, the more your rep is worth.

    A grey rep is from someone who has no rep points at all (usually a forum newb).
     
  7. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    No, it's needed since I have too much experience personally; being a shallow personality is a must if you want to flower with them.
     
  8. FuzzyOne

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    is it really that important? :confused:
     
  9. Tim S

    Tim S OG

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    Since when?
    That's quite an accusation to make... one that I'm actually quite offended by. It's quite the opposite in fact - we welcome overseas members and the forum (and website) has an international audience. However, please remember that we are a UK-based website so the primary language is English - you wouldn't go onto a Chinese website expecting people to understand you if you wrote your posts in a foreign language and the same applies here.
    There's a report post/thread button for a reason.
     
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  10. Ending Credits

    Ending Credits Bunned

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    And what do you expect the mods to do, close every single thread that's got a similar counterpart and wait while people ask why their threads got closed?
     
  11. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    modding is not about closing or terrorizing others; as the word would have it.
     
  12. Tim S

    Tim S OG

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    We're not "terrorising" as you put it - or at least I hope we aren't. I think the fact that there are many modders from across the world who post worklogs on the forums, no matter how good or bad their English is, speaks volumes for that. To my knowledge, we've never taken anyone to the task for poor English because it isn't their native language - and if we have, I'd certainly like to know - we're just thankful they're bringing their great work to the community. I know you guys quite regularly take us to the task for sloppy grammar, editing or proofing - we appreciate the fact you do that because I believe there's always room to improve our work.

    I don't like singling people out, but Gianluca (G69T) is a great example and his pictures do a lot of the talking because his English isn't very strong - whenever we speak, he's always hugely enthusiastic and there's just no substitube for enthusiasm and passion. We're happy for him, and every other non-native English (or non-English) speaker, to be here contributing to our community (ours, as in all of us - it's your community as much as it is ours). I believe they get a lot out of it - not only because of the attention their work gets, but because of the inspiration they get from the work of others - which is why they keep coming back.

    We've also never run the forums as a dictatorship - it's not just about me, about Richard, about Joe, about Harry... or anyone else on the team for that matter. It's about the community as a whole. I don't expected to be treated any differently and I treat all of you as I'd expect to be treated. If people question what we write, we're more than happy to answer those questions - no matter how difficult they are. If we don't know the answer, we'll put our hands up and endeavour to find out.

    Just to expand on the bit about "our" community - one thing we actually put into every member of staff's job description is that they are "to be a part of the bit-tech/Custom PC community". It was the same before bit-tech became a part of Dennis too, although less formally. The reason why bit-tech has always put its job ads on bit-tech (and almost nowhere else) is because we believe that the community is a huge part of the site's identity and there's an amazing pool of knowledge here. It just makes sense to recruit from that pool of knowledge, because you already know our values and how we go about our business.

    I don't get a lot of time to spend browsing every part of the forums these days because of the extra responsibilities I've taken on over the years, but I never cease to be amazed at some of the work I see in the modding/project logs forum when I do have time to look. The quality of work in the Mod of the Month competition is testament to that and it's consistently the most enjoyable article I get to read on a monthly basis.
     
  13. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    I must excuse myself, I was referring exclusively on the comment made by Ending credits; unfortunately it really looked like I was making a joint answer.
    I did not manage jet to write anything to your post, since I'm preparing a speech for a congress and my thoughts are floating on completely other matters.

    I always believed that moderating is about showing the way, not forcing; therefore the comment of Ending Credit was seen as quite extreme by me.

    What is true however is, that this site needs a redesign. As surveys show, the people look at the front page, if this fails to attract, they do not explore further the real content.
    I'm mentioning this solely because I would like to see more adds, therefore more revenue, and thus having a warranty, that you'll be able to continue.
    The real strenght of the Bit-tech team is in depth opinion, and a real-life realistic one. Since I'm not a person into fripperies I know how to appreciate such. You should capitalize on this in the "promotion" page(s); instead you many times cover the strenghts with "leisure".
    One of you got offended when I mentioned, that you're far from IGN; okey, post games, but put them in a "leisure, fun, free time" section, instead of papering hardcore content.

    Similar goes for the forum, it needs an update; you would not want to use today a Pentium III PC, would you?
     
  14. tk421

    tk421 Idiot.

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    i beg to differ on the low rep = forum newb comment.

    I have personally been around since the beginning of '01 and registered in '02 ... generally only post if i have either a) a strong opinion / interest / something (tastefully) funny to say or b) a valid question, or answer to a valid question.

    I don't get a lot of time these days to muck about on the forums ... wife, kids, 1800+ xp machines to administer ... not to mention wise packaging and SCCM rolls.

    I just got my first rep points a couple of weeks ago. but i'm always here to answer anything anyone asks me ... just learn to use the PM's ...
     
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  15. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    nice to have a specialist around!
    what are your strongest tech areas?
     
  16. Ryu_ookami

    Ryu_ookami I write therefore I suffer.

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    In your opinion, I happen to like the site as it is and considering the number of other people that use it I would hazard a guess that other people like it as well.

    um is bit-tech in any danger of closing down? And secondly just how did you gain access to bit-techs corporate accounts so that you know that they need more revenue if they are not to close?

    I would have to disagree on this point I think the bit-techs team main strength is that they don't seem to be afraid to poke fun at themselves and others and manage to do so in a way that upsets no one whilst still getting any information that they believe to be relevant across in their articles

    At which point the friendly open feel that people seem to like about Bit-tech would vanish and it would become like the hundreds if not thousands of other generic hardware review sites


    I happen to still be using 2 pentium 4's as my main machines but I'm also running a couple of P3's as file servers etc so I don't know about anyone else but yes, I would still want to run P3's PC's.
     
  17. mars-bar-man

    mars-bar-man Side bewb.

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    True dat!
     
  18. Tim S

    Tim S OG

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    I think we've got a good formula for the front page, but due to the amount of content, things get lost very quickly - that right hand column on the front page is an absolute nightmare because, in some cases, we'd like to write more articles that fit into those sections, but they disappear too quickly. I've been working with Jamie on a refresh/redesign on and off since August last year (the acqusition put things on hold for a while) - we hope that it'll remedy these issues without "breaking" what makes the current site design good from both a readers' and writers' perspective. We don't want it to not be bit-tech, in effect. The big change was in 2005 when we moved to the first version of the current design - the refresh will be about making optimal use of the space more than anything else.

    I can't go into the nitty gritty details for obvious reasons, but we've actually been fairly (but not completely) recession proof. We had to cut back on a bit of freelance, but then the full-time team now stands at 9 across bit-tech/CPC so we've actually got more editorial resources than we had last year. We're totally not in any danger of closing. Absolutely, definitely, no questions asked - if anything, I want to build on what we've achieved this year and make a really concious push forwards like we did in 2007/2008.
     
  19. Kyocera

    Kyocera The Garden of Evil

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    The majority of people go to dedicated humor/fun sites for entertainment.
    Maybe you should really limit yourself to your strenghts, poking at right people and coaxing to selected ones, so that you can rest assured that your alter ego will not go amiss what reputation bar/points is/are concerned.
    And secondly, to paraphrase, is there any signification to debate about business when you think that a bare handful of people make (for) a CORPORATION? :hehe: :hehe: :hehe:
    Well, you probably look from your perspective, if someone has a feeling that the received few hundred pounds at the end of the week almost make for a lottery win, than they must really feel that a corporate account is the way 8 people go.
    I just returned from a local store selling construction material (bricks, mortar and the like), that operates in one building and has 46 full-time jobs and they have a small business account in the local bank.

    I really must apologize to you, you know, for having trouble of grasping how to put you in the perspective. The thing is, that I was always part of enterprises where co-workers go into hundreds of thousands.

    And yes, I really feel that more advertisements mean more revenue, since we are all enjoying for free.
    More money for them does not go only into number of co-workers, but also into testing what they like and when they like, so that you can enjoy for free the best and the most recent and actual reviews on the WORLD scale.
    This site is one of leading edge ones on planet scale. It's not a Devonshire village mill from the 14th century, or a plaster shop such as you work for. Therefore, click and check regulary on the links provided if you want to be of value and not only a paper weight.
     
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  20. 500mph

    500mph The Right man in the Wrong place

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    Oh my, I didn't mean for all of this hullabaloo to come out of me asking. I am sorry.
     
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