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Discussion in 'Hardware' started by t4n6o, 16 Nov 2018.

  1. t4n6o

    t4n6o You know when you've been tangoed

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    Right guys n gals, I've come I to a bit of money and my current system is becoming a bit outraged for what I need out of it (As in signature).

    I was having a chat with a mayte last night who was trying convince me that it was better to go for Intel over AMD, but another mate of mine has a Ryan 7 2700 ( or 1700) and seems to do alright

    Basically the system will be used for gaming (primarily) with the usual internet use and movies with daughter

    Would any of these systems be sufficient, which would be the best, what recommendations would you give.


    Ryzen
    AMD ryzen threadripper 1920x
    ASUS prime x399 a
    Corsair vengeance LED 16gb
    EVGA rtx 2070 x's 8gb
    Samsung 970 evo 250gb m2
    Corsair obsidian 750D airflow
    Corsair tx850m
    Be quiet dark dock pro


    Intel
    I7 9700K
    ASUS prime Z370 A
    Corsair vengeance LED 16gb
    EVGA rtx 2070 x's 8gb
    Samsung 970 evo 250gb m2
    Corsair obsidian 750D airflow
    Corsair tx850m
    Be quiet dark dock pro


    Thanks in advance
     
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  2. silk186

    silk186 Canadian

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    For gaming, I would go with a Samsung 970 evo 500gb. 256gb is too small for games unless you have a second drive for games.
    Intel is a bit ahead for gaming, AMD will be much better for everything else and close in gaming performance at high resolutions.
    What are you playing and at what resolution?
     
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  3. sandys

    sandys Well-Known Member

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    Threadripper platform is what I would go for but I value storage and having an abundance of PCIe lanes for graphics and NVMe and don't care about CPU power so much as GPU. TR would require 4 ram sticks for optimal config. That said....

    If you don't have a specific need for more threads, the system is for pure gaming and you don't give a stuff about platform expandability then it would be a toss up between Ryzen 7 2600X/2700X in x470 board or that 9700K/8086/8700k in a z390, the Ryzen is a slower CPU than Intel but the money you would save over Intel setup could get you a better grade of GPU like 1080Ti/2080 which tends to matter more for gaming once you are at 1440p and beyond.

    If you are competitive 1080p gamer pushing 144hz screens etc, buy the Intel and clock the crap out of it.
     
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  4. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman Don't phone it's just for fun.

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    As silk said you'll want a 500gb m2 drive, you'll quickly regret getting a 256. I'd probably go for a 8700k as you'd get 4 more threads than a 9700k if you were to ever need more threads, you'll save 80 quid and the performance "loss" in games vs the newer 9700 is negligible.

    You won't need an 850w psu, 650 would be more than enough. Also is there a particular reason for going for a full tower case? It's a bit big for what's going in, you could downsize to a 450d to keep the same look, be a bit more space sufficient and save a bit more. The savings could tip you towards a 2080.
     
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  5. t4n6o

    t4n6o You know when you've been tangoed

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    Currently I am using my 40" 1080p TV, until i can get 2 monitors with higher resolution say around 2156 x 1440 (or highrer) and once saved up occulous.

    As far as gaming atm, I am wanting pro cars 2 and work up to some higher and more strenuous simulators..... and make it a future proof for a few years to come with a few uogrades inbetween.

    The 256 would be mainly for windows and main system resources, games sod be like I have now on a second drive
     
  6. t4n6o

    t4n6o You know when you've been tangoed

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    Didnt realise I was this out of touch with pc components lol in my current pc I have a 1050w PSU lol

    The 750D (In my way of thinking), was a larger case wouldnt get as warm as fast.
     
  7. t4n6o

    t4n6o You know when you've been tangoed

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    So basically the R7 2600X/2700X or the intel 8700K/9700K with a better GPU would be better for the gaming side over the threadripper option..... as good of an ideait may be
     
  8. edzieba

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    Threadripper would definitely be a big waste of money in this case. For gaming, you could probably also get away with dropping down to an i5-8600(K) or i5-9600K and use that extra cash for RAM or GPU. With the current GPU market, a second hand 1080Ti is worth keeping an eye out for with cost in the same ballpark as the 2070.
     
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  9. silk186

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    The huge cases are ideal for big custom water builds.
    I think a more moderate size case would be easier to manage airflow, otherwise, you could go with an open design.
     
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  10. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman Don't phone it's just for fun.

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    I had a 1050w too, but even with a overclocked core2quad and GTX480 it only drew 400w from the wall while running prime and furmark simultaneously.

    It's more about getting fresh air through the system efficiently than space, so maybe budget in some better case fans. Maybe some be quiet silent wings to match your dark rock pro.
     
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  11. t4n6o

    t4n6o You know when you've been tangoed

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    Ok so a reduction of case wouldnt have too big of detrimental effect for needs, plus saves sone money for other parts
     
  12. t4n6o

    t4n6o You know when you've been tangoed

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    Right, threadripper as good as it seems not worth money for useage, that would save money for other things.


    All this new tech that keeps coming out its hard to keepntracknof everything. Thats why advice from others is always a good idea
     
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    More fans......silent ones.....could get noisy otherwise
     
  14. TheMadDutchDude

    TheMadDutchDude The Flying Dutchman

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    The size of the case isn't as important as good airflow. You can have the biggest chassis in the world with the worst airflow, and your components would suffer dramatically. Airflow is key, for the most part.

    I concur with the above. I'd personally go down the AMD route as they are giving us upgrades on the same socket for a few years to come. They promised until 2020 at least, which is awesome. It also gives slightly better bang for buck. However, as you're only wishing to game, Intel is the faster route without any question. It comes down to what you value, and whether or not you think you'd be changing the CPU in a year or two - unlikely, but give it some thought.
     
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  15. t4n6o

    t4n6o You know when you've been tangoed

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    Been having a think....... I've probably made an error somewhere lol.....

    There is no GPU on that list as i am looking at buying that seperate on finance but I am thinking of an EVGA RTX 270 XC 8GB


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    I'd stay off the XC and go for the slightly more expensive 2070s. They cut corners on the cheaper ones to stick to Nvidias rrp.
     
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  17. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    I wouldn't buy a 2070 in any guise. It's no good for RT, which makes it about as good as a 1080 and they can be had cheaper.

    If you want value then consider the Vega 56 that's selling for £299 with some free games.
     
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  18. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman Don't phone it's just for fun.

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    6TB :jawdrop:
    The 56 is some way off the 2070's performance and it's hungry and hot. The 2070 sits in between the 1080 and 1080ti, but more towards the ti. If you're going to be getting some high res monitors soon, you'd be better off with a 1080Ti for the extra vram.
     
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  19. Vault-Tec

    Vault-Tec Green Plastic Watering Can

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    The 56 will usually sit between the 1070 and 1080, depending on the game. However, it costs £299 with at least £100 worth of games. The 1080Ti you listed is £649, that is a whopping difference.

    It's not so much raw performance for the 56 that makes me recommend it, it's simply the price per performance.

    If you are not ray tracing (and you won't be with a 2070) then there is really no point in spending a ton of money unless you are gaming at 4k only. At 1440p? the 56 will offer more than enough performance.
     
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  20. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman Don't phone it's just for fun.

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    As the OP has said they will be getting a couple of 1440p or higher monitors up the line, the 56 will not be enough and require a further upgrade an cost them more in the long run.
     
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