OK, an update of sorts but I'm still undecided. Photography not going well is not really solved by buying new kit, as what's behind the camera that counts most. Buuuuuuuuut that's far to rational and GAS has kicked in... I sensibly went to the last remaining camera shop locally and had a look at a used GX 80 with 12-32 lens and a Nikon Z50 with 16-50 lens and a Fuji X-S20 as these had been recommended as lighter flexible travel cameras. The GX80 was nice, more solid than I had expected. As a spectacle wearer the EVF wasn't great and a bit lacking as suggested in some reviews. I then tried a Fuji X-S20, which didn't grab me any more than the X-T1. The controls were less traditional, but not enough to sway me. The Nikon Z50 was a pleasant surprise, as it has been talked down as the runt of the litter with a very limited lens selection. The EVF was in a different class and way easier to see, the 16-50 pancake zoom worked really well despite the small maximum apertures, and the potentially bulky handgrip was really ergonomic and made it really steady to hold. Sadly that one has just sold, so I have more thinking time. I kept thinking that a used Z5 or cheaper Z6 both with IBIS could be useful and better in low light, but the FF lenses are almost all huge and heavy, getting me away from the main remit of lightness and portability. The Z6 body alone is heavier than the Z50 + 16-50 DX lens Any thoughts and suggestions? I want a light carry all day kit, and the Z50 for all its faults will do that job well with one or both kit zooms. Not looked at a GX8 yet, and didn't like the Olympus SLR style MFT bodies when I had a look.