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News UK Government to delay age verification scheme launch 'indefinitely'

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by bit-tech, 20 Jun 2019.

  1. bit-tech

    bit-tech Supreme Overlord Staff Administrator

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  2. lacuna

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    pr0n for all!
     
  3. Jeff Hine

    Jeff Hine Nothing special

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    Sounds to me like someones' a$$ got canned for trying to suggest something that will snoop on their superiors' after-work activities... :p
     
  4. Anfield

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    Somewhere around 7% of websites of the adult variety are hosted in the UK,so even if none of them f***ed off to a non-UK hosting provider and all complied with the age check there would still be less than a 1 in 10 chance of seeing the verification prompt.

    Plus most people wouldn't trust a porn site to keep their data safe, so would just go to a foreign site that has the exact same content.
    Also there is the problem that there would inevitably be an influx of fake porn sites set up solely to scam the few who would actually be willing to submit themselves to that kind of check.
    And of course porn is the most widely pirated type of media (as no one dares to stand up for that industry).
    Last but not least, it wouldn't even matter if the government managed to wipe out the porn industry and delete all currently existing porn in the world as it is the easiest type of media to produce at home, so a constant near infinite supply until the end of the human species is guaranteed either way.

    In much less words: The proposal never could have been implemented in a way that was even in the same universe as something effective.
     
  5. Wakka

    Wakka Yo, eat this, ya?

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    Knowing how grubby Politicians are, and how vulnerable they would be to having their details exposed should there be some data breach/hack, they were probably working as hard as they could behind the scenes to stop it going through (while still saying all the right things to the public).
     
  6. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    There are plenty of good arguments against the plan, but...
    This ain't one: the point of the scheme is that the age verification is a service the porn site uses, so it's less proving your age to the porn site and more proving your age to the age verification service which then says "yeah, he's cool" to the porn site. That's what the whole BBFC certification thing's about: the age verification providers getting a nice little rosette they can stick on the sign-up page to let you know they're totally above-board.

    Now, the fact that the companies launching the age verification services are the same companies that own the porn sites in the first place is... Look over there! <runs away>
     
  7. Jeff Hine

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    Just as likely to have been a way to get the populace closer to the "tin-foil hat world" of everyone having their details on a database so that they are controllable... but who says we aren't there already.
     
  8. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    If they didn't comply they'd probably be added to the block-list on the UK firewall.
    I suspect plenty of people wouldn't have a clue if the AV provider had been certified or not, i can envision nefarious people would/could fiddle with the code on porn sites to redirect people to a phishing site or something.
     
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    1.1.1.1 / 1.0.0.1
    You didn't hear it from me:p
     
  10. yuusou

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    1.1.1.1 / 1.0.0.1 configured on your router, caching on your router, and your router serving it's own IP for as DNS server.
     
  11. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    Anti-copyright blocking (e.g. Piratebay) is done at both DNS and IP level - for compliant ISPs at least, some deliberately half-arse it - so just swapping DNS alone isn't going to do cut it.

    I guess the government figured out they were just about to force the UK population to learn about and use VPN services or Tor, and realised that would throw a wrench into their general metadata collection policies.
     
  12. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    6 months, apparently.

     
  13. cjmUK

    cjmUK Old git.

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    Indeed, 6 months is what I heard. It's fascinating to think that Tory attempts to be puritan are going to reduce the security of the country by making VPN use so ubiquitous.

    Also my reading of the law was that it doesn not just affect UK-hosting smut, but access to smut from the UK.

    I wonder which pron provider will be the first to release the first free VPN that only accesses their site(s).
     
  14. adidan

    adidan Avatar now in stock for xmas 2019

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    Youngsters will find a way if they want, an age check will do nothing.
     
  15. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    Yea but as cjmUK says it's going to open the door for a lot of people to far less savory content, all the work that's gone into making file sharing sites inaccessible will be made redundant and worse still people will have unrestricted, and possibly untraceable, access to child pornography.
     
  16. adidan

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    I hate that term, it's child abuse.

    I don't follow how anything will make illegal sites more accessible? People who want to access them will already be using them.

    Not sure it follows that somebody wanting to access legal sites will then want to go and view the goddamn awful of what the internet has to offer.
     
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    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    Want to? no, but you only have to look at youtube to see how quick you can end up down a rabbit hole of awful from even the most above board starting points.
     
  18. adidan

    adidan Avatar now in stock for xmas 2019

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    Sure, that can be true, but i'm missing any point trying to be made.
     
  19. Anfield

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    In that regard the biggest threat is currently the idea of facebook integrating a currency as it will effectively add an "official" bribe grooming victim option...
     
  20. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    By forcing horny teenagers and the like into the darker areas of the internet in search of their pr0n without 'the man' knowing about it, they increase the chance of coming across the properly horrid stuff. It'd be like taking reddit away and making your mum look for cat pics on 4chan, sure you might find your cat pictures but one wrong turn and you're in unspeakable places.

    Sure the scum of the internet already know that **** is there and where to find it, but it also increases the chances of it being found by those not actively looking for it. You'll also have some who will actively look for it if only out of morbid curiosity because they know it's out there somewhere.
     
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