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Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by bit-tech, 4 Jan 2019.

  1. bit-tech

    bit-tech Supreme Overlord Staff Administrator

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  2. DbD

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    It's IPC that matters - that's what made the core cpu's so much better then athlon's and the A64's so much better then the P4's, and it's still true today. Most desktop or gaming users need at most 6 cores right now. Most games still don't need more then 4 - even BF5 using DX12 and raytracing (the most forward thinking game out there). The company that gets the next big IPC increase will win big, just chucking more and more cores in there isn't going to help much.
     
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  3. sandys

    sandys Well-Known Member

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    Anything AMD can do, Intel has the resources to do it better, simple really, the competition is good for us, let's hope the pace of innovation can be kept running at a fair lick, giving us more for our money.
     
  4. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    Any worries about a potential Ryzen 9 eating Intel's HEDT low-end are kind of silly with the 9900k having already done that a few months ago.
     
  5. perplekks45

    perplekks45 LIKE AN ANIMAL!

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    This just makes me antsier to go out and get an i5 9600K for a good price to upgrade my 3770K. Usage? 90+% gaming. I don't need dem coarz. Not in the foreseeable future, that is.

    To explain: I'd love to go AMD but I don't see them slapping Intel around in gaming-related scenarios like they do in core-heavy applications. And more cores won't help as much as more IPC and higher clocks. I will, however, wait for CES and whatever AMD will show off there.
     
  6. jb0

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    Which makes their largely inept and tone-deaf responses to AMD thus far all the more embarrassing.
     
  7. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    Guess they was caught out with ryzen (even motherboard makers was as well as it was a mess of a start as they did not have long to test it)

    For my use case it has been fine the 1800x but for 2 games would have I preferred the 8700k that came out shortly after for them 2 games (factorio and ksp) as they need faster Single core performance and high clock speed but also a low latency ram controller (not just the ram speed it self) as them 2 games late game megabase factorio or large part count ksp, the nearly 2x overall latency of intel becomes an an issue that affects it by about 40%

    But for everything els its fine as they are not latency sensitive

    Be very interesting what they do with the zen2 3000 if they sort out the ram controller and infinity fabric cross ccx L3 latency
     
  8. Bob Andersson

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    I'm not hearing anything about fixing the Spectre/Meltdown vulnerabilities. Why should I even consider replacing my current (vulnerable) system with another that is also vulnerable?
     
  9. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Well AMD aren't affected by Meltdown for starters and Zen2 is reportedly going to have a hardware fix for Spectre (beyond current software mitigations).

    Hopeful of Zen2 for my next overdue upgrade.
     
  10. TheMadDutchDude

    TheMadDutchDude The Flying Dutchman

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    Well, we all know I’ll be grabbing one when they go on pre-order. I might even go pick it up instead of waiting for shipping. :D

    If what the rumors are saying... and I really hope that it’s mostly true, Intel are in for a serious whooping.
     
  11. leexgx

    leexgx CPC hang out zone (i Fix pcs i do )

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    It should be interesting
     
  12. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    ...is it mice?
     
  13. jb0

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    I dunno about putting the CPU inside the mouse. USB latency could be devastating to performance.
     
  14. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman Don't phone it's just for fun.

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    Then done just enough, which is all they needed to do. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have something new in their back pocket they've been sitting on for ages, waiting till they actually need it before letting us have it. But if they don't and they get caught with their pants down, we'll all have a jolly good laugh.

    Because you're not important enough for anyone to care about hacking you personally. They're much more interested in hacking big data centres to get millions of account details at once.
     
  15. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    For targeted attacks, yes; for indiscriminate attacks, to turn your system into part of a botnet, hold your files to ransom, mine or steal cryptocurrencies and so forth, no. Untargeted malware is still very much a thing - and then there's the fun of combining the two, using a targeted attack on, say, an a advertising network to spread your malware to a few million web browsers worldwide...
     
  16. The_Crapman

    The_Crapman Don't phone it's just for fun.

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    Fair point. But there's vulnerabilities everywhere, in everything. They're not intentional, they're not maliciously included they're just an unfortunate hazard. Like finding the soap on the floor of the prison showers. I feel people massively overreact like they've woke up in a bathtub full of ice sans kidneys.

    Poop is an inevitably of life. Accept it and deal with it as and when it occurs. Don't live your life in fear of it occurring or you'll miss the fun bits.
     
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