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Rant Android Owners: Hear my Cries

Discussion in 'General' started by Gunsmith, 15 Jan 2011.

  1. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Maximum Win

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    first off: **** YOU ORANGE!

    second: help :(

    my contract came to an end so I re-rolled and in the process got a Desire HD which is certainly a step up from my aging HTC Hero.

    Shiny toy arrives in the office and after playing with it for 15 mins the horror dawns on me. Orange have typically ****ed around with the firmware, and i don't mean make a few changes, i mean royally **** all over it.

    there's more pre-installed **** on it then a Sony Vaio, rubbish game demos, orange branded apps which already exist on on android, marketing tie ins with amazon music that appear when your listening to music, the list goes on, and to make it worse you cant uninstall any of it without root.

    now i rooted my old hero back in the day but i'll be damned if i can remember how.

    can anyone help me root my DHD and roll it over to a stock 2.2 froyo? :waah:

    said helpful person/people get a cookie.
     
  2. theevilelephant

    theevilelephant Minimodder

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  3. DaveMon

    DaveMon The end is nigh! Repent!

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  4. Ph4ZeD

    Ph4ZeD What's a Dremel?

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    I'm tempted by an Android phone as my next phone - I've got a 3GS. I'm looking at the Nexus S for stock Android goodness and rapid upgrades to new Android versions.
     
  5. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Maximum Win

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    yeah i had a look at these the other night but i know nothing of androids inner workings, i don't really want to blindly follow someone elses guide without knowing if it'll work and not nuke my phone. i was hoping someone here would have experience doing it and would be able to guide me into doing it properly :/
     
  6. samkiller42

    samkiller42 For i AM Cheesecake!!

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    I'm loving my Desire HD, but i know exactly what you mean regarding all the stuff on the phone. I wont root or do anything to my phone as i have Orange Care, in case i break it, tis an expensive phone an all.

    Sam
     
  7. Zoon

    Zoon Hunting Wabbits since the 80s

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    I gotta be honest, I rooted the other half's LG Optimus GT540 following the guide from XDA developers and it went without a fault; if they say to use visionary+ r12 then you should be fine with it. If you then use nandroid you can backup your Orange ROM before replacing it with a generic one.

    My method was the much more difficult usb-developer mode pushing apps in and forcing them to run via ssh. I felt really hacker-ish doing that, lemme tell you. This method isn't for you though, as the app to do it is custom-made for the LG.

    Once its rooted IMO you don't need a custom ROM, you can just download Titanium Backup and it'll let you disable/uninstall all those Orange "system" apps that you can't otherwise get rid of.
     
  8. theevilelephant

    theevilelephant Minimodder

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    I know the feeling, although the two times I've followed guides on xda to upgrade my ROM/root my phone they have worked flawlessly. I remember the horror of seeing the amount of crud orange had preloaded onto my Desire :(
     
  9. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Maximum Win

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    alright ill have a go at it in the morning, it'd getting a bit on the late side atm and I still gotta head out to meet someone at midnight :/
     
  10. Matticus

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    It is a shame Unrevoked doesn't work on the HD. It was a one-click root when I did my Desire.

    I can't believe I used the Orange branded rom for so long on my Desire, the day I rooted it was the day I really uncovered the power of the phone and really started to enjoy it, I had that new phone feeling all over again.

    Edit: I would check out LeeDroids Desire HD rom once you are rooted, I use his Desire rom on mine and it is pretty fantastic!
     
  11. Ending Credits

    Ending Credits Bunned

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    Received my Desire HD yesterday... only to find out that it was actually a normal Desire. :duh:

    Fortunately the guy who runs the store we got it from has said he'll take resoponsibility even though technically he's not liable as we signed the contract without checking the phone model was the HTC HD (although my mum had ordered the phone several weeks prior as my christmas present and specifically said the HD model several times so he wasn't entirely blameless either). Taking it back tommorow and I'm guess it's going to take a while to get it replaced. :(

    So apart from that, does anyone have any experience with TalkTalk? Currently I'm on O2 and I don't get mobile signal at home so I may get lucky if they've got good signal coverage but I know you don't with quite a few different networks.
     
  12. Gryphon

    Gryphon What's a Dremel?

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    another good resource is MoDaCo. i've followed their guides with my blade, and has worked flawlessly.

    The moment you get clockwork on your phone, take a backup, then recover it to double check it works (if it doesn't the verification check will fail before it starts restoring, just take another backup and try again). Only 1 in about 25 backups have bee corrupt for me, and i don't know what caused it.

    Once its backed up, you can load whatever rom, and fiddle with it as much as you like - you can always revert to stock.

    ALTERNATIVLEY

    You don't actually need clockwork at all (although its nice security). VISIONary should work on the Desire HD. try rooting with that, then installing Titanium backup from the market.
    Launch Titanium Backup, grant it superuser permissions, and go to the backuip/restore tab. you can then uninstall any stock app. (well - any app at all, so if your not sure about what your uninstalling, don't uninstall it! or at least back it up in titanium first.)
    My SanFran came loaded with orange crap, and if yours has the same, be aware that the browser, alarm, and music player are actually stock android, just with an orange icon. To fix that, just get a themeable launcher like ADW. (the Matte theme looks nice ;))

    You could probably get rid of the amazon music links by changing player? the .apk for the android honeycomb music player is all over the place atm... otherwise i use winamp.
     
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  13. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    Gosh, and I thought Apple were control freaks... But mobile service providers like Orange make Jobs look like a laid-back open source hippy. :p
     
  14. kylesaisgone

    kylesaisgone What's a Dremel?

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    It's a shame that the Android model is starting to mirror Microsoft's.
     
  15. Guest-16

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    Starting?

    Google need to take control of their platform and create a certification program!

    All this makes me thankful my Legend came with only HTC Sense on it <3
     
  16. stuartwood89

    stuartwood89 Please... Just call me Stu.

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    I had the same problem a few years back with my Sony Ericsson W850, I couldn't do anything with it, and they disabled a load of features. I got the phone unbranded and it was perfect, did exactly what I paid for it to do. If there is anything I've learned from that experience, it is never buy a phone locked to Orange, or use Orange at all in fact. Nothing gives them the right to mess around with firmware when it impedes the usability for the customer, it just shifts their custom to another carrier.
     
  17. The Monk

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    This

    Also running a rooted Orange HTC Desire (Not HD) on the LeeDroid ROM works great. It seriously improved my battery, can get 3 days out of it now :D
     
  18. ufk

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    Vodafone are just as bad, when I got my Legend it was preloaded with all sorts of crap, took me a while to find out how to root it but it's now a far better phone.
     
  19. Mattmc91

    Mattmc91 Minimodder

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    My Desire HD only has one piece of 3 on it, and that's the browser homepage.

    Brilliant phone (although I've only had this one since Thurs as the other died a horrible death(constant restarting/crashing))
     
  20. Gunsmith

    Gunsmith Maximum Win

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    OK cool so Ive got visionary and titanium installed and whilst i can bin the majority of the pre installed crap I'm thinking id prefer just dropping the bomb and installing leedroid.

    ive got temp root atm but do i need full root to run a nandroid backup?
     

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