E.U: Leave or Stay? Your thoughts.

Various unions representing NHS staff are on the verge of agreeing a pay rise of 6.5% spread over the next three years --provide they sacrifice a day of annual leave. That makes it not an impressive offer, but the coin seems to have dropped that recruitment-wise, the pay cap is unsustainable (and look at the noises they are making now about teachers' working hours and pay).

I suspect the Tories are getting really nervous about the Brexit cake turning out to be less rich and cherry-covered than promised and feel that they are having to engineer some token upsides. However I do wonder which magic money tree they're going to shake for this one...

 

The same magic money tree they use for all central government spending, as i said in another thread when you're a currency issuer you don't have to collect taxes before you can spend it, in fact you have to spend money first so people have something to pay your demands for taxes with.

Unfortunately we're still wedded to the idea that the supply of money is limited like it used to be when it was linked to gold almost a century ago.

 

Which proves once again that Austerity is a con to drive through Tory ideological 'small government, free market' changes.

 

People seem to have forgotten that after WWII our debt to GDP was about 180% but in the preceding years we founded the NHS, were building 200-300k houses each year, bought up the railways, gas, water, electric, introduced social security, and a whole raft of other seemingly expensive projects and yet despite all that the debt to GDP ratio fell to less than 50% only 30 years later.

 

People have short, innacurate, memories in general. Hence rose-tinted nostalgia for the 'good old days', which by and large, didn't exist. Certainly didn't exist the way they remember them.

 

That's OK; they'll soon get to relive them. That'll jog their memory.

 

Yea, Brexit was totally not about immigration..

Blaming the death of an 85 year old man on mass immigration and open borders must be a new low.

 

To paraphrase Twitter once more...

Given May and co have already branded judges 'Enemies of the people' and brands UK citizens, even her own colleagues 'saboteurs' and 'traitors'... It doesn't leave much rhetorical room to manouvre re Russia's alleged actions.

 

Just for kicks I reported the tweet for inciting hatred against a group of people.

 

Meanwhile France signs a deal with India before the UK manages to, even though this isn't supposed to be possible inside the EU.

So much for Empire 2.0... Faisal Islam tweets his comments.

 

No point doing so, a failure to understand the issues surrounding cause and correlation is not inciting hatred but rather stupidity

 

When it comes to Brexit it seems there's no such thing as austerity, cuts, and reducing the roll of the public sector.

Then again it's not really surprising as it seems there's plenty of money when it suits the politicians own self-interest.

 

Perhaps they're funding it partly from the unspent £817 million that was set aside for affordable housing projects for the 2017 financial year. Priorities, I guess.

 

Oh the irony of Disgraced former defence secretary and chief flag waver for the uk going ti alone, Liam Fox, asking the EU for help in ensuring the UK is not hit by Trump's Tarrifs.

 

Meanwhile Trump wants Europe to drop tariffs against America:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/973171763835228162

Do as we say, not as we act...

 

The EU did this last time too when W last tried steel Tarrifs [which negatively impacted the UK]...

They levelled tarrifs on Oranges... not the most lucrative export for the US, but it is a key industry in Florida, the state his brother was governer of at the time, and a potential swing state in that year's elections.

...W promplty caved and dropped the tarrifs.

 

Tinfoil hat time: The tories are pushing through a massively unpopular policy; All it's flaws become more and more exposed with each passing day and then a dead Russian turns up. I've read at least two headlines containing the phrase "Ready for war" in the past week, and history shows that nothing bolsters blind patriotic deference than a good ol' war. Could this be the next incident of disaster capitalism at work? Could this be a false flag?

 

It could be Faux-Thatcher's attempt at a Falklands... But I don't think anyone in the govt is competent enough to pull anything off...


Also 'Ready for War' is a joke... given the current state of the cut to shreds armed forces... They're barely ready for dealing with a hen do at kicking out time...

 

At least if we have a proper war we won't have to keep pretending that the nations finances are comparable with a household budget.

 

Well, he's still alive isn't he?

As for "Ready for War" it's the evocative propaganda that counts here, not the reality of the situation.