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E.U: Leave or Stay? Your thoughts.

Discussion in 'Serious' started by TheBlackSwordsMan, 22 Feb 2016.

  1. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Yeah he's quite capable on his own.

    Edit: Supreme Court starts today.
     
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  2. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    The Johnson guide to public speaking -

     
  3. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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  4. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    If there was such a thing as an incompetence meter, it'd explode if it was near downing Street.
     
  5. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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  6. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Multimodder

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    Can't get de-platformed if you never stand on the platformed.

    Or maybe they're worried that the next one they stand on will have a trap door and a rope...
     
  7. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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  8. Nexxo

    Nexxo * Prefab Sprout – The King of Rock 'n' Roll

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    UKIP does seem to cycle through its leaders pretty fast... perhaps the stage should just have a travellator across it so successive leaders can scroll past the lectern with ease.
     
  9. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Multimodder

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    Maybe we can install one in Number 10 too.
     
  10. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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  11. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    Were they for a delay, or for the ditch?
     
  12. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    loftie Multimodder

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  14. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    The man could be in a half-full teaspoon, with water wings, and still be out of his depth...
     
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  15. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Multimodder

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    Having been listening to the various arguments in court I have a horrible sinking feeling that HMG are going to win this one.

    It doesn't hinge on why Bojo suspended parliament, it's about whether he has the right to do so and whether he followed the correct procedure. Self interested lying scumbag acting for all the wrong reasons he may be, but I haven't heard a compelling argument that he has broken the law as such. Maybe they'll surprise me.
     
  16. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    One can never predict how these things will go... As you say it's seldom about what's right, only what's legal. And even where it's not legal, the court does not necessarily have the ability to do anything about it.

    ...there is also nothing the govt doing/trying it again with the 'right' reasons.
     
  17. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    To vastly oversimplify: the government's argument is "there is no law on how prorogation can be used, and here are some examples of it being wielded as a political tool in the past so we can do whatever we and its fine, and because there's no law it can't be judged by a court (not justiciable)", and the opposing argument is "because there is no law and it has important constitutional implications, it must be justiciable. If only Parliament can make laws, then Parliament actually needs to be in session to do so, so a recall is necessary".
     
  18. Corky42

    Corky42 Where's walle?

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    You sure they didn't go with the prorogation means prorogation line? Going with the nonjusticiable line sounds like they've got some sort of expert, that can't be right.
     
  19. fix-the-spade

    fix-the-spade Multimodder

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    Sadly this is why I think HMG will win, like Lootboxes the existing law simply doesn't cover it and the supreme court doesn't make the laws, only enforce them. The law doesn't say there must be a recall.
     
  20. Anfield

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    From the Supreme Court case:

    So even if the Government lost Parliament could theoretically remain closed...
     

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