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Discussion in 'General' started by Ryu_ookami, 29 Jan 2008.

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  1. Ryu_ookami

    Ryu_ookami I write therefore I suffer.

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    I've just installed a new HDD into one of my PC'S. I had forgotten exactly how much of the drive you lose I've installed a 160 GB drive and Its given me 148 GB of it Now I know it has various things It needs to store partation tabel etc but 11 GB's worth is kinda extreme surely ?
     
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  2. Lovah

    Lovah Apple and Canon fanboy

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    They make the x1000 instead of x1024 mistake on purpose. So you've got: 160(gb) x 1000 (mb) x 1000 (kb) x 1000 (b) = 160.000.000.000b. But in reality you've got 160.000.000.000 : 1024 : 1024 : 1024 = 149GB

    So 148GB won't be too far off...
     
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  3. teamtd11

    teamtd11 *Custom User Title*

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    I have 4 500GB drives, and on each i get 465GB, so thats 140GB that i bought and i don't have:sigh:
     
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  4. steveo_mcg

    steveo_mcg What's a Dremel?

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    see post 2, the stated capacity is more of a PR than an actual value of space purchased.
     
    steveo_mcg, 29 Jan 2008
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  5. Fod

    Fod what is the cheesecake?

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    sigh. amount of times this comes up!
     
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  6. Jackypoos

    Jackypoos Will it blend?

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    Gibibytes and gigabytes >.<
     
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  7. Smilodon

    Smilodon The Antagonist

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    I find it amazing that so few know about this. as Lovah says, you don't loose anything (almost). It's just a different way of calculation. the number of bytes are exactly the same.
     
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  8. specofdust

    specofdust Banned

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    You think that's bad? I lose 190GB on my raid.
     
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  9. MilkMan5

    MilkMan5 Yeah man...

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    The little people that live inside your HDD need to live somewhere.
     
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  10. cpemma

    cpemma Ecky thump

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    It's only the same as CRT TV screen sizes and processor speeds. A Sempron 2600+ isn't really over 2.6GHz. :miffed:
     
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  11. teamtd11

    teamtd11 *Custom User Title*

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    It cracks me up when i got to a computer fair, and see someone trying to sell a 6.4ghz AMD PC!!!!!!!! :hehe:
     
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  12. mctigger

    mctigger What's a Dremel?

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    this annoys me aswell! a byte should 1024 not 1000 - for instance when in uni the amount of times i have been asked to calculate sumthing that involves a network, they take it has 1000 and not 1024. but if it were a question on something inside a computer it is taken as 1024 ( i.e bus transfer speeds).

    Also wasn't there a lawsuit recently about this with a well known hdd manufacturer, i can't really rember which one, was it seagate?
     
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  13. Smilodon

    Smilodon The Antagonist

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    Yeah, but that was in in the USA, so it doesn't count as a serious lawsuit :p I think it was Western Digital, BTW
     
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  14. Edhi

    Edhi What's a Dremel?

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    Drive size is a pain.
    My 750GB drive in my server comes out as something like 650-odd. (Can't remember off the top of my head)
     
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  15. Krikkit

    Krikkit All glory to the hypnotoad! Super Moderator

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    698.4919GB, actually. :p
     
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  16. Edhi

    Edhi What's a Dremel?

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    That's the one ;)
     
    Edhi, 30 Jan 2008
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  17. Thacrudd

    Thacrudd Where's the any key?!?

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    Please excuse my ignoance on the subject, but is there nothing that can be done? That bites a big one. Does the same pertain to extrenal HDD's?
     
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  18. Smilodon

    Smilodon The Antagonist

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    The only thing that can be done is to standardize the way we calculate disks. (which is 1000b=1Kb today...) And yes, this apply to external disks as well.

    I don't see the problem, since all manufacturers use the same standard.
     
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  19. Thacrudd

    Thacrudd Where's the any key?!?

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    specofdust looses 190GB on his. What does a 190 GB HDD (or 200 rather) cost? 80+- bucks?
     
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  20. Krazeh

    Krazeh Minimodder

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    No he doesn't, that space was never there in the first place.
     
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