Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Da Dego, 19 Apr 2007.
Somehow I doubt MS's strategy of a cheap XP version would work in China. I'm guessing MS still prefers the current situation to a strong alternative coming from China.
allow me to grin me arse off. China dont care 2 bits of a tadpole's arriere if microsoft complains or not. as long as they arent involved themselves.
An unchangable problem at this time. Though no one really uses Vista, Windows XP Pro & Office is like shareware. The difference between piracy here and in England or Le states is that most people (and more importantly businesses) still buy the legitimate way where as China only has the illegitimate way.
If all the businesses and Schools in this country paid what we pay for Windows and office, well.... They'd change to Linux!
I think this has more to say about Vista than software theft in China.
You could give me copies of XP and Vista (I have been with XP) and I would not use them, Win2000 is still by far the best M$ OS, and going to be the longest supported from the last time I read the M$ lifeline page.
I`ve seen a documentary about the Chinese Government changing complitly to Red Flag linux, a redhat based linux specially coded for them. I like the idea.
Ok back on topic. 244 copies? You must be kiddin. There most be stores who sold more then that in the launch week.
that is pathetic.
What a perfect place to hold the IDF then!
Even though that probably has no relevance what so ever
I think some stores got offer a better % of profit, per Vista copy sold.
Yet that does not come from MS but some counter-fit group.
That COULD be one of many reason it only sold ~200 copies.
Also, I think that even if Vista was sold at 50$ for the Ultimate... they would have similar results. Just spread to other countries (as export of the 50$ copies would be done)
Even if MS made a special version with extra software protection, the pirates would simply use the Europe or US version of Vista.
This problem, I beleive, is due to the lack of intervention of piracy in China by the government. (probably because MS is a western company)
I love how nobody really reads the article accept the guy above me. This is not a sales issue it is a piracy issue.
^^^ I think we had already figured that out and thus did not see a need to repeat it.
People are also forgetting that Vista costs the same over there as it does in the states, yet a huge number of people earn hardly anything.
So, lets think about this. If MS had not wasted money on advertising there, probably millions, how much less would ultimate have cost the rest of us? Even fifty bucks off the current price would be nice, though it still feels like highway robbery.
That's ridiculous! A whole country only purchases 244 legit copies? The population is massive and isn't China a major holder of many net surfers so shouldn't they at least have bought a home edition? The numbers should show rather then a measly count of two hundred rather compared to a million possible users. However, Ramble's right about the cost and how an extreme majority of them can not afford it. Still... the thought just puts me out of place, especially where 90% of the country just cheats the system. It just doesn't settle. I can see what L2wis stated happen but I have this relentless nagging guess that even retailers there (who look official) are doing the same thing. It'd explain MS' short comings in my opinion based on the fact that more then half the country are pirates.
^Yarg. (Sorry couldn't help myself.)
Well, I'm willing to bet anything there were more copies of Vista being used than 244. It's true that some people have reservations about upgrading, but for one of the fastest growing economic centers, the largest population, and undoubtedly millions of computer users, you'd think there would be more than 244 legitimate keys distributed to a long-awaited OS.
Well, Vista isn't probably worth buying until at least sp2 comes out, around 2010
in 2010, I think MS would release a new version of Windows...
The ONLY reason why XP had XP2, was because Longhorn was not ready, yet. So basically SP2 had some of bug fixes and feature (Windows Firewall) that were supposed to be for Longhorn.
I think if you have a end-2005 to now, computer and you spend at least 1k Can (custom build), you should be good for Vista. Maybe a RAM upgrade at most but that IS ALL.
Anyway, I don't think that SP1 will come out for Vista. Or it will just be an update pack... (so you have 1 update instead of 1000) no new features.
We have to wait and see...
The problem with you and many, is that you look at the cover, and go "oh a new skin, that sucks..." BUT THAT WAS THE SAME FOR XP! You have to look under the hood:
I don't know about you, but the list is VERY long.... And for me I find it VERY interesting.
Just the fact of having this:
"Skip file" button on the CUT/COPY/DELETE/MOVE dialog box
All the annoying bugs like application stealing focus, tool tip does not appear above Start-bar, and others, fixed
DirectX10, SuperFetch, ReadyBoost (both of them, explains why it uses more RAM), ReadyDrive, and way better resource management
is already enough for me to buy the retail copy of it.
If you think it's useless... well here the perfect windows for you:
In fact I think that might be a bit too much for you
Sorry just kidding!
And for the fun of it:
Just to illustrate the state of piracy in China.
I have a friend doing his placement out there and he gets offered any piece of software new or old for 0.50€ (50 cents).
Why would someone spend $3 for a crippled windows when they can get a full working one for $1.50? startling
I wouldn't pay a single cent for pirated software..
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