The sheer lack of skill of some people really scares and confuses me. It's often not just a matter of being new to the game, not knowing the maps/guns/mechanics, it just seems like sheer idiocy. No game has brought out such behavior more than WoW, in my experience. I've been in groups where a person is told to attack a certain creature, stands still for 20 seconds, then promtly runs off a cliff, or where a person will be told "Don't use ability X" and not 30 seconds later, repeatedly uses Ability X. It's as though some people are completely incapable of higher order thought. I can only assume, based on reports of others and my own slight experience, that MW2 attracts the same type of players. My idea of BFBC2 maps: Jungle With Lighthouse, Jungle With Dam, Reskinned Arctic Jungle with Oil, Autumn Jungle, Reskinned Arctic Jungle with Submarines, Desert With Boats, Desert With Bridge. One can argue that it's Battlefield, so indoors won't work, but remember that this isn't just Battlefield, it's also Bad Company. It's supposed to be smaller scale and more close range. Adding a far more urban setting make senses. Or like you say, with open spaces and the odd bunker. I'd like to bring up Suez Canal from 2142 as an example. Big open desert, with detailed and urban control points.