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Graphics The 1080TI GPU Thread

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by rainbowbridge, 1 Mar 2017.

  1. rainbowbridge

    rainbowbridge Minimodder

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    Well as a dude that has gone from a 780ti to a 980, then to a 980ti, to a 1080... I can see a pattern here, a pattern of upgrade that has to continue.

    If this thread is to be believed? the 1080ti is quite a power house. but seriously if even in VR at full maximum settings I am hitting over 90fps and over 70fps at 4k.. (dell capped at 60fps..)

    Do we upgrade here to the 1080ti?

    who is the 1080ti targeted @
    :idea:
     
  2. oasked

    oasked Stuck in (better) mud

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    I'd be more interested TBH in the supposed price drops to the 1080 (which don't seem to have happened yet in the UK). The Ti does look like a beast, but it's going to be crazy expensive.

    I can't believe generally how expensive graphics cards are these days - top end cards used to be £300, now they're almost £600!

    Definitely diminishing returns on your investment at that price
     
  3. Isitari

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    1080 is meant to have an immediate $100 price drop according to guru3d (someone also posted this in another thread).

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    THIS. X100.
     
  5. sandys

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    its more of a complete system on a GPU board than a CPU, there is more processing power there too, more silicon, not exactly low tech at 16nm, why would a high end GPU be that much less than a high end CPU?

    In addition the market is surely smaller for it you have to make a return somehow.
     
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  6. N17 dizzi

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    An alarming trend that coincided with AMD's drop off of genuine competition with Nvidia at the top end. Much like Ryzen, Vega needs to be competitive to help us enthusiasts out.

    I was surprised the ti was not priced higher than $699, considering the Titan X Pascal price. I bet they've been sitting on this card for a while, with absolutely no need to release it while people were willing to buy the TX for £1200.
     
  7. Pete J

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    Normally I keep quiet about things like this until I've done it, but I'm contemplating switching my Titan XMs out for a couple of 1080 Tis. I play Star Citizen quite seriously on the PvP scene and recently upgraded from a single 4K screen to triple 1600p screens to improve my spacial awareness (which it did). Unfortunately my framerates dropped from a nice, stable 60FPS to something less, which affects my accuracy in matches.

    I'm hoping that the combination of fewer cards in SLI as well as better performance will make things nice and snappy again. Going to mull this over for the next few days.
     
  8. N17 dizzi

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    3/4 way sli has been dropped by nvidia, so it makes sense to sell up. I got rid of my TXMs just before the 1080 landed, as I knew the value would drop. Still going for over £500 on ebay though.
     
  9. Wakka

    Wakka Yo, eat this, ya?

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    I paid just shy of £290 for a 2GB 670 in 2012, I think 680's were around £420-450 (with gratuitous gouging...).

    I paid less than £200 for my 8GB RX480, which does the same job of playing all current games at 1920x1080 without compromising on image quality. Personally I think it's only the very top-end of the GPU market that has gone crazy - and that's to be expected because nVidia know that, at that level, enthusiasts WILL pay crazy money.

    It's the same with Intel, we all know a 6900K doesn't offer 3x times the performance of a 7700K, but because there are people out there that feel like they HAVE to have the best, they can charge 3x the amount for it.
     
  10. meandmymouth

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    I'm actually surprised they didn't decide to charge more for this. Obviously I'm not saying it's cheap by any means, but it's better than I thought it'd be.

    I'll also be sticking with my 8GB RX 480 for a good while yet.
     
  11. Pete J

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    Four way SLI is still working okay for a few things I like to play, but yeah.

    £500? Wow. I wouldn't expect them to be that much still. I imagine that'll drop dramatically in the next few days.
     
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    Does make me think they know something about Vega to have priced and specced this well, perhaps being an old architecture it is going to struggle to compete with Vega?

    When is that Vega announcement coming?
     
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    Are those inflation-adjusted figures? ;)
     
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    My solid little MSI 970 has served me well since I got it 2 years ago, but sadly it just doesn't have the grunt to run my gaming selection with all the bells and whistles on this screen (AOC 34") and the 1080Ti has been on my to-buy list since the 1080 and the Ti's inevitability became apparent.

    Some some folk would prefer to play games with things scaled down to have less detail and higher framerates (vegetation & effects in War Thunder) for a competitive edge, I'd rather have all the bells and whistles and everything shiny with a solid FPS.

    This is going to be my first proper high-end GPU I've ever bought.
     
  16. Anfield

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    No one knows, AMD had a livestream yesterday where it was expected that they would offer at least a little bit of concrete info about Vega, instead they hyped moronic 10 min VR experiences and revealed that Vega will be called Vega and that was that.

    As a thank you I'll be throwing money at nvidia once again when the 1080ti becomes available.
     
  17. rollo

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    gpu prices have not really gone anywhere, what has changed is the performance between the 2nd model down. the gap between a 680 vs 670 for example was small on launch did grow larger though towards end.

    Similar story with AMD. 5950 vs 5970 for example.

    Now though the 1080 is at least 30% clear of the 1070.

    They are $ launch figures I think.

    Our currency was just better then
     
  18. Anfield

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    What has changed though is the introduction of ever higher priced (compared to MSRP) premium editions of cards, back in the old days you didn't get Asus, Gigabyte, Msi, Zotac, Evga and so on charging well over $100 extra for Triple Slot 1KG Triple Fan RGB coolers and a 5% OC.
    Especially on the AMD side, the only way you could make cards more expensive than MSRP was essentially to watercool them.

    Indeed:

    8800 Ultra launched end of April 2007.
    $800 back then was £400 (before VAT).
    Today that would be £646 (before VAT).
     
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    Highly questionable. Exchange rates and inflation considered, much? I paid less than £350 for my 9800 XT, and £2x0 for a Ti 4600. Plus, I do not see a Titan, 980ti or 1080 on that graph.

    Edit: if there has been no increase in overall gpu prices in the UK and the current price trends refer solely to how the pound is faring on the dollar, other PC components would have been hit with the same percentage increases we have seen, logically? I don't think that graph accurately illustrates the gpu market trend here in the UK. I am not saying it is untrue, only that it is inconclusive.
     
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  20. Anfield

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    The Intel QX6700 was $999 when it launched almost exactly 10 years ago (and by sheer luck two months before the 8800 Ultra I had picked for entirely different reasons for the exchange rate problem example math).

    That $999 translated to £650 back then:

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/Print/2006/11/02/review_intel_core_2_extreme_qx6700/

    Mind you, that was an £50 extra over what exchange rate + VAT would actually end up at.

    The most recent $999 Intel Cpu was the 5960x back in 2014, that $999 price ended up as £760 inc VAT.
    https://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/2014/08/29/intel-core-i7-5960x-review/1

    Intel then went and bumped the $999 to $1100 with the 6900k, that $1100 now translates to £1000 to actual price in stores (todays exchange rate based price before vat: £894).
     
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