Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Tim S, 28 Mar 2007.
Legal licenses, now for some reason I believe that is due to the OEM manufacturers.
And the 3 million difference over XP? In the grand scheme of things, since XPs release I reckon that increase is proportionately small, when you consider the number of PCs being bought from OEMs has increased a lot more then that.
Doug, re-read the article. Vista sold 20m in one month, while XP did in two and that increase is 135% while the market has only grown 77%. So no, it's not just the OEMs at all...
I still don't think that 20million is a lot, especially when they don't say what version, if it's Ultimate then I find that unbelievable, if it's home then that's believable more because most PCs that run XP will run Home, if it's Business, well that sums it up.
Also, if Bit linked to the actual Press Release from Microsoft they could quote them as saying that the licenses were:
Now, I do believe that Windows Vista Express Upgrade started last year when laptops and PCs were being sold at that time. So Microsoft will have included those upgrades in their figures.
I do not know exactly when that program started but I am pretty sure that it is a fair few months ago, and as soon as Microsoft kicked off their upgrade program most users of machines that were given the upgrade voucher would have cashed them in, or the OEMs themselves would have ordered the upgrades.
I suppose it was to be expected. I don't know of any other operating system that has been hyped as much as Vista - and I'm happy that one of those 20m licenses is mine, albeit an OEM one.
Now that is cheeky of them.
Bah. I just hope I can get away with XP until Vista sp2 or so ...
And, yes, somehow, what was to be expected? Every OEM-PC out there must be Vista now I think. So sure they would sell a lot of copies ... or force them upon people
Wonder how many illegal copies have been made so far then??
Anyway I have just found out that I don't need vista until mid-2008, when Guild Wars 2 (beta) comes out in full DirectX10 glory
Even then you dont need to use Vista for your DirectX 10 needs... roll on the linux distro.. XSOS, which is able to play your windows games including the all new DirectX 10
you can find some info from this forum here...
this is also a FREE os, not warezed
oh forgot to add, "4) As per the microsoft agreement we request you to own a valid microsoft operating system."
(this would be a valid XP system)
this might prove to be a wise move, considering that vista has some fundamental bugs...
"not even capable of moving and deleting files in an efficient manner,"
so Vista really is n00b safe !!!
OMG, it's like a dream come true
i feel sorry for the users that have purchased and made the move to the expensive yet incomplete Vista OS... as in 2 years time, windows blackcomb is due for release in 2009 (blackcomb is the codename). so is vista worth it
Well when you had Win95... Win98 come out soon after....
If you think this way, in 2009, you will STILL not upgrade because you will be like... "well in 3 years they will be a new one"...
The only reason is because you know that it is coming....
My brother works at hardware chipset manufacture, which I am not going to name...
He is now like you, he can not buy the latest hardware of what his company released, as they (he and his team) are working on the second model in the series after. Meaning that he know that their is a model already done... yet not release...
you may ask why they do that? Well it's totally acceptable as in case their newly release one, fails... they have plan 2. Remember, hardware manufactures don't make much money. Well they do, by engineers are expensive.
I'd say yes, as Vista Ultimate OEM cost me £110 - that's about £4.58 a month over 2 years, which isn't bad considering.
The open beta I think was a big success, let us see why we should move to Vista. I myself will be getting Vista (probably Ultimate) later in the year.
xp got 17 in 2 months and vista around the same figure in 1 month?
how about the difference in the number of computers/users 6 years ago and now?
Vista isn't quite as bad as some would like to think it is. the copying bug was found only on certain PC's (none of them homebuilt) and was not overly common to begin with. most of the other issues fall into the Driver and Legacy Software categories; but to advance at all something has to take a hit. consider this, do we make a big deal out of the fact that some of our old pentiums don't work with the 680i boards? no, because the dropping of older standards and hardware is the reasonable price of progress. The exact same can be said of vista, the old many-times-patched stuff was re-written, at the price of 3 months or so of teething issues. the real question to ask is, has a bigger problem been solved than the one that was created? (I'm not even going to touch that one..)
As stated in the article, "According to research, 52 million computers were sold in 2002, while over 92 million are expected this year. Of course, that's only a 77% increase - Vista sales increased 135% over XP."
I'm glad the bittech article acknowledged that fact too. Every other site skates around the issue hoping you won't notice that fact.
MS is also counting all the XP-to-Vista upgrades for the millions of laptops world wide not yet sold. Then reinstalled with the new OS as soon as Vista came out. Nobody has to buy the lappy for the company to buy the OS...
Nature.. you will be SOOO SURPRISED....
I'm a student at small college (< 2000), and I can name you 23 people just like that. And most of them don't even know they have a free Vista upgrade
20 million sold doesn't mean 20 million in use. I've bought a bunch of laptops and desktops over the past 3 months. All upgrade coupons were submitted and the recent machines were bought with Vista. The first thing I did was format and install XP. As a corporation we're not using Vista until late 07 or early 08. So I probably account for 20 of those 20 million but they are essentially going to sit on a shelf for a year. I'm sure a lot of those 20 million fall into a similar situtation. Got them because they could (or because it was essentailly free) but no plans to use them.
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