Discussion in 'General' started by johnwilliams474, 21 Feb 2004.
Ford's suck for the record.
I've grown up with Toyota's and Honda's. Good reliable cars.
Im just curious tho. If u grew up around toyotas and hondas how can you judje a ford?
Ignorance is blis huh?
Mostly Toyota's and Honda's. My uncle (who was living with us for some time) owned a Ford Taurus and it was a piece of junk. Had to get it taken in all the time. Plus, Ford's have a bad reputation of not being very reliable (Not all of them, but that just seems to be the general feeling).
My friends pop owns a ford crown victoria andhe has over 400k miles on it in the last 9 years and he only had problems with it 3 times. two of witch were burned fuses and the third time he had to replace an o2 sensor that cost him lil over 60bux including labor. In my book thats a tough car. He still drives it every day and weekends he puts over 600miles on it just going home for the weekend and back upstate. The thing still drives beutifully and dosent burn any oil.
Tauruses were cheep fords and in most cases they were built badly. They are not that gr8 of a car.
Just noticed one thing TekMonkey that your first car will be a mazda? Well guess what thats also a ford. Ford owns mazda bud.
Sory to bare bad news.
check this out
As u see the symbol resides in their site.
I've always liked the Dodge Viper, but for some reason, my current car of choice would be a Nissan Skyline in shiney black. Can't say why really, it just looks...meaty .
As I said, not everyone has bad experiences with them, but in my experience they haven't been reliable and people have told me the same.
I know that Ford owns Mazda's, but they don't build them. Ford owns the company and collects all its revenue, but Mazda's are still built seperately from Ford.
Actualy you are wrong about that. Ford makes the engines at their plants and the ford and mazda counterparts are asembled side by side.
mazda mx6 and ford probe are the same car underneeth. Also the miata and focus share some components. and not to mention they share transmissions and suspension parts between fords and mazdas.
I was under the impression that Mazda had their own factories, but perhaps I was wrong. Mazda created the Mazda6, not Ford, so Ford is just using the Mazda parts in the Probe. Perhaps that means it will be a nice one! I really don't want to argue, I'm not a car expert, but in the past I've just been told about trouble with Ford's.
actualy the probe has been discontinued and in its place resides the new mercury cugar.
and you are rite some fords are truble some just arent. same goes with honda any other company. But to be fair during the early 80's till the mid 90's domestic car makers had very fiew cars that they could be proud of. some of the autos built especialy during the 80's were beasts that were unreliable and plain crap. some were jems mutch like the buick grand national.
I am tired of postin in this thread as a matter of fact. lets just say to each his own.
Good luck with the new car and I hope you do well.
I'm more a fan of a swedish car... is it a volvo?... No... Is it a saab?... no.. It is the only swedish car there is... It's Koenigsegg CCR!
...somehow, somewhere, somebody forgot to mention Porsche....like the 959- 0 to 60 in 3.7, and full-time 4 wheel drive no less....!
959 rally car = completely OTT.
If you're going to talk about American cars to people from other countries, you should know what your talking about. Exactly which parts are shared with the Mazda Miata and Ford Focus? Engines used in NASCAR racing are 358ci (5.8L) not 302 or 305ci V-8's (5.0L). They don't handle as good as many race cars but they are designed to be competetive with each other on an oval track. Most of our cars are heavy and don't handle as well as some of the imports but that is changing. The Dodge Viper and Chevy Corvette are some of the best handling cars made today and can come close to Italian exotics that are more than three times the price. The Viper's 8.3L V-10 and 'Vette's 5.7L V-8 aren't nearly as tempermental as the lower displacement engines found in exotics. Porsche's, Ferrari's, Lamborghini's, etc. are very cool cars but are almost impossible for most people to afford. $80,000 for a Viper with 500HP that can pull over 1g on a skidpad is almost affordable compared to a Ferrari that is just a little bit faster with a $100K or more price difference. I'd love to have a Viper as I'm a Mopar nut but I'm more into four wheel drive diesel trucks. With just a few mods, you can get over 1000lb-ft of torque and over 500hp while still getting 20-24mpg and being very reliable (sometimes 350,000-400,000 miles or more before a rebuild). Do they have diesels like this in Europe ?
This truck weighs 8000lbs yet it runs a 12.78 @ 108mph in the 1/4-mile.
What kinda gas milage does it get?
No us sensible europeans, have things called emission laws in europe....
...and care about diesel prices/MPG, instead of driving a 8 tonne truck that farts cancer
I'm afraid I'm going to have to flat-out call that one as ********.
$50k for 2g on a skidpan and from a 1500cc engine...that do you?
I didn't say that there wasn't anything capable of out handling either one. If you want the most bang for your buck buy a 'crotch rocket'. You wouldn't get any thrill out of thrashing on a Viper SRT-10 or 'Vette ZO6? Do they even have more than 2 or 3 over there anyway? Which car are you talking about?
And how fast does it accelerate/what does it top out at? I enjoy being able to burn the tires in any gear. 8300CC's of American muscle is a beautiful thing. You pride yourself in being sensible while I enjoy a truck that can rip a house off its foundation and drag it down the street at 80MPH if I was so inclined. All hail the gas guzzling big block V-8 that will make your ears bleed with its rumble.
Me drives a Ford F150 4X4 SuperCrew! I like the room a truck gives you. Cant stand laying on the ground while I am driving. Besides, I need somthing that can pull my boat. For some reason pulling a boat with a car just seems wrong.
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