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Graphics AMD R290X GPU - Titan Killer

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Neogumbercules, 23 Sep 2013.

  1. rollo

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    $600 is a lot better than $650 in your deluded world. £500 in uk it will be. Guess how much a 780 is in the uk on amazon £500 shock horror. If your willing to pay $600, $650 is not a lot more to ask for.

    We not really gonna see major price cuts unless nvidia undercuts them or AMD under cuts them. Won't be buying either so not really much care for me.

    High end video card are like high end phones you pay a premium for it. Mid range is where bang for buck is always has been always will be.

    7950 is not a lot worse than the 7970 yet it was a lot cheaper on launch. 670vs 680 for example.
     
  2. sandys

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    The 680 was launched 2 months later and was pretty much job done in a lot of games from reviews I read, hardly a long time 2 months. :confused: even when the Ghz edition came out it was tit for tat.

    launch review
     
  3. teppic

    teppic What's a Dremel?

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    Argh. The 680 at launch was faster than a reference 7970 on poor launch drivers. The 7970 is way ahead of a 680 now the drivers are sorted out.
     
  4. Harlequin

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    that's a hair way from 3 months not 2 months - about the same as AMD getting the new series out to beat the 780/titan. oh and a bios change saw the 7970 ahead of the gtx 680 (or tied) to the new gtx 680 , again a hair under 3 months after the gtx 680 came out.....
     
  5. sandys

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  7. Cei

    Cei pew pew pew

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    Your choice, but I'd prefer a company develops multiple products for all purchasers - right from bottom end to absolute bonkers top end.

    A year? It took 3 months - March 2012. Regardless as to the state of drivers - you have to consider the whole package. Performance is performance.

    You're employing dodgy maths here. Titan was February 2013 - that's over seven months ago, not three. Whilst you're correct in terms of competing against the 780, the overpriced Titan has had a good solid amount of time with zero competition, which is why it's so expensive.
     
  8. teppic

    teppic What's a Dremel?

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    The 7990 has been around for a while. The Titan's price is not so much lack of competition but nvidia knows a lot of people will buy its top rated GPU at pretty much any price regardless.
     
  9. Cei

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    The 690 has been around a while too - dual GPU cards always appeal to a different market. Titan was sold/marketed on being the fastest single GPU solution, avoiding all the problems with duals.

    Regardless, I'm glad AMD are stepping up to the plate, just wish they had done so sooner.
     
  10. teppic

    teppic What's a Dremel?

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    I guess AMD wanted to wait until a lower priced nvidia GPU was available, since the Titan wasn't aimed at the people buying 7970s. And their Never Settle promotions have boosted sales a lot in the meantime.
     
  11. Kovoet

    Kovoet What's a Dremel?

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    Hang I don't care what the reason, at least I will not be paying 800 quid or more for one gpu. My 7970 have been brilliant as well.

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  12. Neogumbercules

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    Deluded? Where's all the harshness coming from? Take a chill pill man.

    Firstly, we don't know 100% for sure if the new AMD will be priced at $600. Second, $600 isn't much less than $650, but it's A LOT LESS than $1000, so yes, if the R290 beats the Titan, it will drive down prices because no informed consumer will pay $400 more for a weaker card. The R290 will be a -massive- undercut to the Titan, IF it outperforms it, which it seemingly will.

    Likewise, if the R290 comes at $50 less than the 780 and outperforms it, AMD is still undercutting Nvidia by a not insignificant amount of $ and performing (apparently) 10-15% stronger. The people buying these high end parts are the very people who will nitpick reviews, benchmarks and price/performance. In other words, when you're selling at this price, your primary customer is generally going to be a much more well-informed consumer. If you're running $50 more than your competition and being creamed in benchmarks, you need to adjust your pricing.

    The high end pricing of Nvidia's current gen is higher than last gen by quite a bit. This was due primarily to AMD not having any competition to put forward, outrageous performance due to most PC games being limited by old-gen consoles, and plenty of customers willing to pay (don't take me for some "fair pricing" twit. I believe 100% in the open market determining pricing based on what consumers are willing to pay, but that doesn't mean I have to -like- Nvidia launching their top end at $150 more than their last few top end parts). With the release of a new high-end part from AMD, it's pretty obvious that both companies will be trying to price aggressively, especially Nvidia since they are being out-performed.
     
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  13. RichCreedy

    RichCreedy Hey What Who

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    they been working on ps4/xbone
     
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    The_Crapman World's worst stuntman. Lover of bit-tech

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    Yield issues on the new Volcanic Islands chips? (Is that the right code word?) NVIDIA can't make the GK110 stuff fast enough, so it doesn't get put in the 770 or lower.
     
  16. jrs77

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    Yeah. I saw leaks of the R270, R250 and R240 earlier which are basically rebranded 7850, 7770 and 7730.

    It's a damn shame that they don't care to develop the lower and mid-level cards aswell. I really would've liked to see an even more efficient or slightly faster 7750 for example to put into my upcoming PC.
     
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    Darkwisdom Level 99 Retro Nerd

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    I'm not going to lie. That shroud looks awesome.
     
  20. Cei

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    Nice shroud design, though it'll get totally changed by third party manufacturers :(
     

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