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bit-tech 2017 refresh feedback: Bugs and errors

Discussion in 'Feedback & Suggestions' started by Dogbert666, 27 Jun 2017.

  1. GeorgeK

    GeorgeK Swinging the banhammer Super Moderator

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    Cheesecake

    By the way cheesecake isn't spelled Cheesecake
     
  2. MadGinga

    MadGinga oooh whats this do?

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    Hi guys, surprised this hasn't been raised, so concerned its my setup; but none of the links to articles in the Article Discussion section work for me...

    When clicking on the links I get the following (example):
    http:////www.bit-tech.net/news/rebellion-announces-evil-genius-2/1/

    Notice the 4 slashes
    and http not https - but that doesn't break it.

    Using IE11 (please don't kill me - its not a choice, and I cant check on anything else)
     
  3. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    What happens if you click on the following link?

    //www.bit-tech.net/news/rebellion-announces-evil-genius-2/1/

    If the answer is "it's broken," then IE is apparently incorrectly handling protocol-relative URIs. An http://example.com link will connect you to example.com via HTTP; an https://example.com link will connect you to example.com via HTTPS; a //example.com link will connect you to example.com via whatever connection type you are currently using. So, if you're on HTTP you're connected via HTTP; HTTPS, you're connected via HTTPS.

    All browsers should be able to handle protocol-relative URIs: it's RFC3986. That said, if bit-tech is redirecting all traffic to HTTPS anyway there's no real reason not to use https://example.com instead of //example.com.
     
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  4. wolfticket

    wolfticket Downwind from the bloodhounds

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    IE11, Firefox, Chrome and Edge all handle those links okay here.
     
  5. MadGinga

    MadGinga oooh whats this do?

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    Clicking on that link results in an 'address not valid' error page.
    If I remove two of the four slashes, and refresh/reload it works fine.

    The http/https comment was just an off-hand remark that it was odd to be redirected to http when originaly browsing in https.
     
  6. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Then your work proxy is breaking stuff, 'cos the whole point of protocol-relative URIs is to make sure you never get directed away from the protocol you're currently using. Wolf's confirmed that IE11 handles the URIs fine, so you need to be asking IT exactly what they're doing and pointing 'em to RFC3986 to get 'em to stop.
     
  7. MadGinga

    MadGinga oooh whats this do?

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    Awesome o_O I'll add to the rather long list of really poor implementation that they ignore.

    EDIT: My bet would be if I bring to their attention, their solution will be to block access to Bit-Tech.
     
  8. Assassin8or

    Assassin8or Minimodder

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    I'm afraid that it's probably the former

    In the past, when IE8 and 9 were released, I found that broken layouts in browsers were always down to bugs in sloppy HTML markup, CSS and JS, not the browsers (JS always being the worst culprit as those developers seemed to think that they were DOM gods, that the rules didn't apply to them and that they could fix everything with yet more JS.)

    Firefox and IE get bad press these days for rendering layout honestly, whereas the likes of Chrome and Edge hide the mistakes by educated guesswork. I prefer the former approach to the latter, I prefer people to know that they're not doing a good job so that they can learn from the process.
     
  9. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Issue has been fixed and it was actually down to IE not supporting a CSS rule that all other browsers support so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
     
  10. Assassin8or

    Assassin8or Minimodder

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    I guess as IE gets older this will happen. Do you know if the feature you are using is actually a released feature, or if it's in a recommended state but it hasn't been signed off yet (however most browsers have support for it)?
    I mention this because of its not finalised and signed off you're essentially using beta implementations of the spec and YMMV in terms of browser support and specific implementation, which can lead to horrible differences in rendering.

    It's always best to check the
    https://caniuse.com/ website before using new features; to check browser compatibility.
     
  11. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    https://caniuse.com/#search=inherit
     
  12. Assassin8or

    Assassin8or Minimodder

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    JS eh. http://kangax.github.io/compat-table/es6/ Even Edge doesn't support all the features of ES6 yet :D

    As with all things on the web, you have to look at your own visitor stats and make a decision on whether to use a technology based on what proportion of your visitors you're willing not to support; if the technology is not fully supported.
     
  13. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    The only people that use IE are people who go on bit-tech at work and are forced to use IE by their bad policies. I got a fix out fairly quickly to my knowledge nothing else is broken on IE. If it is broke then we get so few visitors on IE that non of them have reported it.
     
  14. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Been bamboozled. Fixed
     
  15. David

    David Take my advice — I’m not using it.

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    Um, is the alert system borked?

    I'm getting emails abut replies to subscribed threads, despite having email alerts switched off in my preferences. :lol:
     
  16. MLyons

    MLyons 70% Dev, 30% Doge. DevDoge Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Not to my knowledge. Please almighty gaben don't let it be so.
     
  17. Xlog

    Xlog Minimodder

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    Dunno if its an error or a feature, but banned members are not show as such and going to their profile shows "This user's profile is not available." error page.
     
  18. Xir

    Xir Modder

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    The Forum does a sort of "soft Scrolling" where is slows down when you stop Scrolling.
    All the time it moves the text is not sharp.
    Also, in the articles, the slightly Grey font makes the text "blurry"
     
  19. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    Was looking at mod of the month, related articles mini-mods-making-simple-cable-clamps is borked 404 styley.
     
  20. davido_labido

    davido_labido Your Alphacool Contact.

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    hmmm, that is interesting as that will be 404 as I haven't finished writing it yet and it shouldn't be visible at all, not sure why it has chosen that article :/ . Thanks for letting us know @MLyons can you pass this on to the team please <3
     

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