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Peripherals Mechanical Keyboards

Discussion in 'Hardware' started by Raptor77, 27 Dec 2011.

  1. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Microcontroller, technically speaking - which is what would be in any other keyboard I attach to the system, too. (Not the same microcontroller, I'll grant you, but *a* microcontroller.)
     
  2. edzieba

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    The Arduino can boot an OS, and even run DOS under x86 emulation (albeit painfully slowly). Though I suppose there is no native Doom port for the Atmel-based Arduinos, so technically it's not a real computer until then.
     
  3. Gareth Halfacree

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    Yes, it can, but we still make the distinction between "microcontroller" and "microprocessor" - even if a microcontroller processes and is Turing-complete. I don't call my washing machine a computer, and its microcontroller is at least as complex as an Arduino Leonardo (though nobody's ported DOS to it yet, to my knowledge.)

    Likewise, every USB-connected keyboard I've got 'ere has a microcontroller in it - but, again, I don't call 'em computers.

    EDIT:
    This is going to be easier than I thought: pick up this four-key switch tester for £8, file a few small grooves into the bottom for five wires (one per switch plus a common ground), run wires to the Arduino Leonardo, program it to have Alt. Gr, F11, F12, and maybe a dedicated Print Screen key, write on each keycap with a Sharpie, place now-functional four-key keypad on the shelf of the Model F. Job dun.

    Heck, stick four rubber feet at each corner to lift it a bit and I wouldn't even have to cut the grooves - just hot-glue the wires into place.
     
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  4. Byron C

    Byron C *psst!* This guy is a loser!

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    If I remember correctly.... The distinction between microcontroller and a computer processor is that a computer processor needs external devices for storage and working memory, whereas a microcontroller typically has its storage and working memory integrated into the same IC. CPU cache memory doesn't strictly count as "working memory" as it's an extension of the main working memory (aka RAM); a PC CPU couldn't rely on its cache alone to function, whereas a microcontroller could make use of external working memory (assuming the microcontroller in question supports external working memory) but doesn't require external memory to function.
     
  5. edzieba

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    A washing machine? No. But Thermostats, video doorphones, calculators, inkjet printers and compact MP3 players are all confirmed to be computers (I could swear I remember seeing it ported to a fridge, but I can't find that one at the moment).
     
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    why Doom? Surely Crysis is the ,.....errr... benchmark of "can it run"'s
     
  8. Gareth Halfacree

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    Nup. Doom is the canonical benchmark. If it can run Doom, it's a computer. If it can't run Doom, you're probably not trying hard enough.
     
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    There are 2 type of device... Those that can run doom and those on which it hasn't been attempted.
     
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    Which is why we have things like Doom for the Commodore 64.

    Well, the SuperCPU when connected to the Commodore 64, anyway...
     
  11. Impatience

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    Hi guys, looking into the idea of making myself a rgb backlit mx mech board as a hobby project.. Seen a few websites recommending certain online retailers for parts, but not sure which parts would work with which! Controllers and tinker boards aren't my strong point.. So I see them and they pretty much seem the same, but I'm guessing each have different functionality. Could anyone help me in my venture?

    (Not sure if this should be a separate thread, let me know if that'd be best!)
     
  12. Goatee

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    I cant believe this thread full of knowledge slipped to page 3. I need some advice from you fine chaps.

    I have one of these:
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    Its a ISO Pok3r 60% keyboard I will use for travel. The ESC keycap has broken (key stem is fine) so I am after a replacement set of keycaps, with the additional layer and function information present as on the original OEM.

    Does anyone know if they exist, what the search term I need to find this?
     
  13. David

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    You could just get a funky Esc keycap and save yourself the expense.

    I probably have a few kicking around - I'll see if I can dig them out tonight, if you want?
     
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  14. Goatee

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    That would be great, thanks.
     
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    One of my boards has an Escape key from an Amstrad CPC-464 that was scrapped. Needed the hole on the underside filing out a bit, but after that it fits perfectly on a Cherry MX stem!
     
  16. Shirty

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    Ooops...

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  17. David

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    Don't you mean "ouch" ?

    Dem's not cheap
     
  18. LennyRhys

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    I've had my RGB MasterKeys for around 8 months now and couldn't be happier. MX Blues are pretty loud but much kinder to my fingers in the long term than the Greens were, and I really like the purple caps on the arrows and WASD.

    I can definitely see myself picking up either a TKL or 60% for work. Them SP crap bags... those were the days eh?
     
  19. David

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    Don't knock the SP bags, I chucked my bag of caps on ebay and two nutters got into a bidding war for them. :D
     
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  20. Lankius Maximus

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    If anyone is looking for a small update to an ISO set (Cherry profile not OEM), kbdfans have a group buy running on enjoypbt set however, unusually, they are offering the ISO enter keys and space bar sets seperately.....

    https://kbdfans.cn/collections/enjo...-grayscale-keycaps-set?variant=21656923701296

    Priced really well at the moment although you have to include $5 shipping. Trying to get either can be pretty hard and having just received my enjoyPBT BoW set from the same supplier the group buy was well run and clearly communicated. EnjoyPBT are now my go to caps anyway so its worth a look.
     

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