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Rant Pointless downvotes on Youtube videos

Discussion in 'General' started by Pete J, 6 Jul 2020.

  1. Mr_Mistoffelees

    Mr_Mistoffelees The Cat Lies Down on Broadway

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    If her boobs were out, you wouldn't notice... Neither would I!
     
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  2. Pete J

    Pete J Unemployed dole scum

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    Damn those pointy elbows. Complete deal breaker for me.
     
  3. slimithy

    slimithy New Member

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    But, in plain English (which is how most people see it), people will just click dislike simply because they didn't like it. So you have to expect some.
     
  4. d_stilgar

    d_stilgar Old School Modder

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    This may sound petty, but there are lots of channels I've followed/watched for years and then the creator changes something in their formula that doesn't benefit me, that I think hurts their content/channel overall.
    It would be nice if youtube told creators when the downvotes occur because I think creators would notice a trend and possibly stop the behavior, but also probably not.
    I usually also comment and give some constructive feedback on what I don't like.

    Here's a list of things people put in their videos that I'll sometimes downvote for:
    • A 5 second (or less) plug for your merch store (they're annoying and clumsy and unskippable)
    • A clumsy house-ad for your sister channels
    • An obviously sponsored video that isn't otherwise interesting on its own
    • A change to more click-bait video titles
    • A change to the video thumbnail with meme "react" faces or whatever
    • That new trend where an animated mouse comes on screen to hit "like" and "subscribe" and "bell" button overlays while the main video is playing. I HAAAAATE those. It's an instant dislike and unsubscribe for me.
    • Overly long intro sequences
    • Crappy music
    • "Like and Subscribe" or Patreon portion of video is longer than content.
    There are levels to each of these and exceptions as well, but the takeaway for me is that most of these are motivated by sponsors or the Youtube algorithm. Someone at youtube posted some video about how this increases some metric so creators making otherwise good content start pooping this garbage all over their videos.
    And I'm sure it works because none of the channels I've seen do this stuff have stopped. It's pretty stupid, too, because I'm sure the only people who would listen to some of that crap are kids, but creators don't care.
     
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  5. Pete J

    Pete J Unemployed dole scum

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    @d_stilgar Those are completely reasonable! At the same time, sometimes they're unfortunate things that have to be put up with to fund the channel

    I do like the idea of having to fill out a reason why a video is up or downvoted though.
     
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  6. true_gamer

    true_gamer Well-Known Member

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    Short answer = Bots. The amount of bots including sex bots I have had to remove during live streams on channels I moderate on is crazy.
     
  7. boiled_elephant

    boiled_elephant Merom Celeron 4 lyfe

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    I've spent a lot of time on Reddit on and off, and found it incredibly toxic. There's something uniquely frustrating about seeing perfectly valid and interesting comments silently downvoted into no longer even showing on the main view, just because there's a contingent of people who disagree. The default behaviour being to suppress any comment a sub disagrees with, even a fairly benign one, is just horrible imo.

    The Elite Dangerous subs are good examples of this. It's very fashionable to hate the game's creators, FDev, to the extent that if you comment anything positive about FDev and their activity at all - even something as benign as "I actually really like this patch, just because it fixed this thing and now I'm enjoying the game more!" - you'll get immediately downvoted into oblivion by angry "fans" whose entire raison d'etre is to hate FDev. It's mad. And mean-spirited. And childish.

    My favourite subreddit is ChangeMyView, which specifically has the downvote functionality disabled. If you try to downvote someone, you basically get a little popup telling you to stop being a lazy PoS and actually reply instead, explaining why you disagree.
     
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  8. Mister_Tad

    Mister_Tad Will work for nuts Super Moderator

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    This should be the default behaviour for any up/down vote/like/etc, ever.
     
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  9. silk186

    silk186 Derp

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    All attention is good attention, all engagement is good engagement. At least on Youtube, some platforms may be different.
    My SO makes content on social media. She had some trolls when she was smaller but they stopped when she got bigger and her fans would attack them.
    She uploaded the same content to two other platforms and did not experience any trolling.
     
  10. adidan

    adidan Guesswork is still work

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    * Looks for dislike button *

    Fking bit-tech.

    :p
     
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  11. silk186

    silk186 Derp

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    I would assume that creators can see this information. At least on some other platforms you get complete analysitcs, when people like, when people follow and when people stop watching are all graphed to the video timeline.
    I've only uploaded a few videos to Youtube so I can say for sure, but I would expect this to be available, at least if you reach a certain number of followers.

    This is a support page you can check
     
  12. Fizzban

    Fizzban Man of Many Typos

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    What I miss is the down-vote actually meaning something on user posts. Someone can say a horrible or dumb thing and the up-votes cling to it giving it a kind of validity. But the down-votes do nothing. Been a few years now that they just don't register. Was Youtube afraid of hurting peoples feelings or something? Worthless system if it only works in one direction.

    Well ok the most liked rise to the top, but dislike should still be visible.
     

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