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The Coronavirus Thread

Discussion in 'Serious' started by d_stilgar, 13 Mar 2020.

  1. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Couple that with some manufacturers going out of their way to make things more difficult than strictly necessary..

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  2. edzieba

    edzieba Virtual Realist

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    Coming from an electronics background: Anything with an OBD-II port is easy, it literally tells you what it's complaining about with a £5 USB adapter and you can just follow the fault tree down to the problem. Engines that run on carbs, a million vacuum lines, and twenty belts? Naff that.
     
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  3. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    OBDII is fine. I like OBDII.

    The problem is that most of the modern crop of cars hide a lot of things behind software that only people with X thousand currency can have, or dealers.

    EG: My work Astra. Changed the wheels over, 'cause winter/summer, and the tyre pressure monitoring system has decided that it no longer likes working. Unnecessary garbage that whines at me every time I start the car that I can't turn off because.. Why? To force people into a dealership.

    Unless someone is going to decrypt the ECU, BCM, GEM, ECM, etc, and work out the communication protocols so that homebrew software can be written to change these values it's basically locking someone out who would otherwise be able and willing to maintain their vehicle. Somethingsomethingrighttorepairsomethingsomething.

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  4. RedFlames

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  5. Pete J

    Pete J Employed scum

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    How is the system supposed to work? Are people supposed to call in if they suspect they have the old CoronAIDS?
     
  6. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    If you are confirmed as having TrumPlague, they're supposed to phone anyone you've been in contact with to tell them to isolate.
     
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    I recently had an issue with the VW Amarok and found "Carista" on IOS with a generic OBD II Bluetooth reader to work perfectly, quite a few of the other OBD II readers (software not hardware)wouldn't work and gave a meaningless code (couldn't find it on the net despite lots of searching). Also tested on the BMW and it appears to work well there too.

    Apologies if this counts as a derail, I have just seen which thread I'm posting in!
     
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  8. liratheal

    liratheal Sharing is Caring

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    Aye, you can get OBDII diagnostics stuff that can reset some parts, I use OBD Auto Doctor on my phone, and various Ford specific stuff on a laptop for farting around with the Fords I drive - But a lot of modern car "features" require vendor specific software. Some BMW's require the battery "coding" to the ECU before it stops behaving as if you've got a low battery. With, unsurprisingly, very expensive software.

    My point is: A lot of "features" of modern cars are to annoy you back to a dealership. The service light on some vehicles? Utterly meaningless. It doesn't impede use of the vehicle, and you're welcome to service the car yourself and ignore said light. But you want it off? Off to a dealership, or to google to find a tool to reset that light. Good luck selling it or trading it in at its market value with that light on.

    Look at Jeep. They've started putting Jeeps in the corners of their glass to annoy you into a Jeep dealership/authorised glazier to get a window with that dumbass little Jeep silhouette put in.

    Every vehicle manufacturer has the same setup, and not one of them isn't a pain in the ring with modern cars. Given the right thread and the right moment, I'm sure I could list a number of irksome software behaviours from every manufacturer.
     
  9. Pete J

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  10. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Staff Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    Ruh-roh...

     
  11. yuusou

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    There have been multiple reports of re-infection now, though very little coverage of it happening.
     
  12. RedFlames

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    That and there's many people who still have symptoms long after the initial infection... but no the figures only seems to count you as dead or 'recovered' [which typically means you didn't die within a month of testing positive]
     
  13. Gareth Halfacree

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    Of all the design inspirations the NHS could have picked for its vision board...



    ...I'm not sure I'd have gone with the game which charts society's collapse owing to the ravages of a terrible infection, personally.
     
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  14. liratheal

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    ..Eh. At least they didn't rebrand with something like the Umbrella logo, or the Tricell logo.

    As it stands, this isn't that inaccurate. Society in a fair few places is spiralling into insanity. Did y'see the potato in Idaho that called listening to experts elitism?
     
  15. GeorgeStorm

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    Sorry what now I need this.
     
  16. liratheal

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    ...The potato or the Tricell NHS? Because hopefully the former.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...rts-for-school-reopenings-as-elitist-approach

    A link, but the quote is pretty much; "Listening to experts to set policy is an elitist approach and I’m very fearful of an elitist approach."

    https://www.idahostatesman.com/opinion/from-the-opinion-editor/article244873127.html

    Another link, but with video of aforementioned potato.

    I say pretty much because there's more, but it doesn't make it any less 'umm... wat'.
     
  17. Pete J

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    As always, don't look at the comments unless you want to commit suicide and need that final 'push'.
     
  18. Anfield

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    Wouldn'tevenSh*tonit Rag comments having a baby with Youtube comments?

    That's it, humanity has gone too far, unleash all 7 plagues at once and invent 7000 new ones just to be sure.
     
  19. ModSquid

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    I struggle with the ruling that if you make it back several hours before the cutoff, you're magically immune and non-infectious.

    Separately:
    I had no idea this was possible. You may have just saved me a few quid on mechanic fees, for which I applaud you.
     
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