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  1. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    More irritated by the associated price hike
     
  2. Spraduke

    Spraduke Lurker

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    And consumers are paying for the very expensive data centre costs with tiny benefits in the real world.
     
  3. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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  4. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    I mean, it's not even just companies: the government is going to use AI to fix potholes. Somehow.

    Billions and billions of pounds of taxpayers' money... flowing into stochastic parrots. All based on a pair of reports from The Tony Blair Institute, which - and I swear I'm not making this up, this is the actual truth and they openly admit it - use figures produced by ChatGPT instead of actual research.
     
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  5. RedFlames

    RedFlames ...is not a Belgian football team

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    The Tony Blair institute... producing reports... a dossier if you will... with ******** information?

    You don't say...
     
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  6. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    Oh, WMD.

    Words of mass deception
     
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  7. IanW

    IanW Grumpy Old Git

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    I dunno about you, but I'd prefer they used asphalt.
     
  8. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    ps.jpg

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    And yes, it's real. Though I'm sure it'll be "fixed" soon.
     
  9. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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  10. Flibblebot

    Flibblebot Smile with me

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    So, let me get this straight. Two shoes on properly, one shoe not...so children have three feet now?
    That explains why I don't like children, I always felt there was something off about them :hehe:
     
  11. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    You only have two feet? You freak!
     
  12. Ice Tea

    Ice Tea Minimodder

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    https://www.theregister.com/2025/01/17/microsoft_ai_redteam_infosec_warning

    Linus Torvalds has been saying that AI-LLM is 90% BS.
     
  13. Gareth Halfacree

    Gareth Halfacree WIIGII! Lover of bit-tech Administrator Super Moderator Moderator

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    That's generous. It's 100% BS, by design. Everything it outputs is a "hallucination," as it has no innate understanding - it doesn't even know it's handling text, much less what that text means, only tokens. It's a Markov chain on steroids, Eliza with a dozen supercomputers behind it. It's an evolutionary dead-end, and at this point we can only hope the economy survives the bubble's inevitable popping. It's going to make the dot-com bust look like a cakewalk, I promise you that.

    "But look," its proponents might say, "I asked it this question and it answered correctly!" Aye, and a broken clock is right twice a day too. What you received was just as much a hallucination as above - it just happened to agree with reality this time.

    There is no fixing LLMs, because they're not broken. They're doing exactly what they were made to do: responding to input tokens with the most statistically likely output token chain. Everything else is marketing.
     
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  14. David

    David μoʍ ɼouმ qᴉq λon ƨbԍuq ϝʁλᴉuმ ϝo ʁԍɑq ϝμᴉƨ

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    I would argue that most of it's proponents are fully aware that it is BS, but they're riding the money wave in the hope they can cash out before it hits the rocks.
     
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  15. Byron C

    Byron C I was told there would be cheesecake…?

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    Our lot is going fully balls-deep in “AI”.

    From a commercial point of view… I get it, I really do. The market we’re in is extremely competitive, if your competitors aren’t already commercially exploiting the Hot New Trend then they’re planning to - if you don’t keep up then you’ll be left in their dust.

    But from a technical point of view… **** me… Even our CTO was going on about how “it won’t be long before programming is a thing of the past, we’ll pivot into AI & prompt engineering and let the AI get on with the boring drudgery of programming”. Like… I really ****ing hope we don’t, frankly. Do you want a messy pile of **** that won’t work? Because that’s how you get a messy pile of **** that won’t work.

    Tons of my colleagues talk about using “AI” to figure stuff out, or how they found out about some new technique through ChatGPT… These are otherwise incredibly capable and knowledgeable developers, and it absolutely baffles me that they can’t see through the hype. Like… OK… let’s pretend that we live in a magical fantasy world where we no longer write code and some all-knowing AI does it for us; how the hell do you know if it’s doing what it’s supposed to do if we don’t have any developers left that can review & validate the code it generates?

    [Nvidia has entered the chat]

    No signs of anything even resembling rocks yet, and Nvidia have been making bank for years off the back of “AI”.

    I agree with Gareth in that sooner or later this bubble will burst, but it’s already made a lot of people and a lot of companies unfathomably and sickeningly rich.
     
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  16. TheBlackSwordsMan

    TheBlackSwordsMan Over the Hills and Far Away

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    Idioteque Telephasic Mongoose

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    TheBlackSwordsMan Over the Hills and Far Away

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    N17 dizzi Multimodder

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    The price of being ahead of the tech curve is seeing through things quickly. It takes a while for the mainstream to realise, so many believe it is intelligent.

    If LLMs are intelligent so are the bots in generic first person shooters. My real gripe is their faked empathy and comprehension, which is why so many in the mainstream are duped.

    "I understand X can feel/be/is challenging...." No you ****ing well can't!
     
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  20. Midlight

    Midlight Minimodder

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    Back end of last year they had a test of copilot at our place. I was "lucky" enough to be a part of one of the test groups.
    Brief was simple, try using AI on your day-to-day tasks and see how your life is improved. My feedback was, thing is pointless. The bits I could have done with assistance on (mainly Power BI) copilot doesn't support. The bits it did support I spent more time checking it was correct/ correcting it than if I had done it myself. It was vaguely useful in giving summaries of teams meetings but that was about it.
    I'm not a fan of the current future we are in.
     

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